No but clearly my memory doesn't stretch back as far as yours which is why I was asking you for the 7th season. Why do you insist on being so antagonistic?
Ah ok, I guess it then becomes debatable about whether promotion from, say, 4th constitutes a better season than one of those that didn't result in promotion. It was a genuine question so thanks for the answer.
City finished... 2nd in the second tier in 2012-13 3rd in the second tier in 1909-10 and 2008-09 4th in the second tier in 1908-09 and 5th in 1905-06, 1910-11, 1921-22 and 1970-71. So if we finish 4th this season it will be our equal 8th best finishing position.
You missed out us winning Div 3 North in 32/33 & 48/49 & Div 3 in 65/66 Not in higher leagues of course, but actually winning is worth the mensh!
As you may deduce I didn't know that because I was there at the time. Although an old bloke who used to go in my local in the 1970s was. He still had the programme from City's first ever game.
No, SSS, it was about our highest ever finishes which are those in Div 2/ The Championship and the PL. Those don!t come into the reckoning.
This about the number of people going in on concession tickets sounds exaggerated in the extreme to me. How would they know? If they did 'know', why didn't they deal with those they knew to be guilty? I've read someone claim that they used cctv to scan the crowd and compare people in seats to the allocated tickets. That sounds like absolute bullshit, but in the unlikely event they did, it's flawed anyway. We had bundles of passes for a block and just sat in any of the seats. I know plenty, me included, that never sat in their allocated seats. Had they sent in stewards to check the ones they allegedly picked out, they'd have soon found the truth. I also know a few that bought passes every year for their kids, but soon after the evictions, the kids wouldn't go as they rejected the lesser experience,breaking up quality family time, so the tickets were used to encourage new fans on board. Sometimes upgraded, but sometimes there wasn't time or it wasn't worth the faff, but they wouldn't have watched City otherwise, or sometimes they were given to people that couldn't afford a ticket. The club got paid for a pass that their actions meant the user didn't want and people were brought into the ground that wouldn't otherwise have come, so no financial loss, but sadly, those same actions meant that the people were not in a rush to come back either and ultimately, many of the pass holders have walked away after decades too. I was also wrongly accused of encouraging people to buy concession tickets to use. My light hearted suggestion was for people to buy the cheapest pass they could, but not use it, so that nobody else could, and it would leave gaps in the stand, maybe even spelling out an appropriate phrase. The club have found a much more effective way of creating those gaps than my tongue in cheek suggestion would have done, and at greater expense to them. And the message it spells out is more telling than anything I would have dreamt up. All in all, it feels like being **** on from a great height, and not just by the club. Life goes on, there are other ways of spending time and money, but the cost is the loss of a community asset. As I read it described elsewhere, if there goal was to stop people abusing the concession system, they've used a combine harvester to peel a banana, but I don't believe it was the reason behind it anyway.
1909 and 1910. http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm To be honest I had forgotten about the 4th in the league one, was just thinking until,we went up 1910, when we missed out on goal difference was our highest ever until 2008. BTW, your assignment, and you can use a calculator, is to subtract 65 from 2016.
Lots of useful info on here. Interesting figures for crowds of various clubs going back the years. http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm
