Hull is a low wage economy so people count the pennies. They know when they are being fleeced. £50 is an absolute joke. Maybe a fiver if you are being a tight **** and insist on wringing money out of your customers .....but fifty quid to cover the admin cost of some min wage office worker to take 5 mins to imput your details on a computer? GTF, silly ****. Do the people who decided on this fifty quid charge understand why people get angry? It's because they know the cost of admin stuff like this, and know when they are being ripped off, their goodwill taken for granted and being conned.
It isn't semantics. Being a season ticket holder doesn't make you a member of the club. My son has a season pass card for his rail journeys to work. Is he a member of the train operators? You unerringly seem to grasp the wrong end of any stick on view.
It's semantics as I clearly meant season ticket holders given I suggested current members. Current season ticket holders don't pay the 50.
I'll say again, season ticket holders don't pay the 50 pound fee. Call them members, call them pass holders, call them whatever you want. That's the semantics.
There isn't a charge for existing pass holders. Obviously after the first season they are going to have a charge for joining to stop people paying for the months of the season and then cancelling their direct debits and then restarting for the next season. None of which alters the fact the whole thing is a poorly thought out and poorly executed load of crap.
What are you on about? I said they were members in the sense they have a season pass. Season pass holders here are considered members. In the context of the discussion it was clear what I meant. Really not sure why this is being made into an argument when you've acknowledged that pass holders don't pay a fee. Arguing for the sake of it.
You're wrong, it's not semantics, there are currently no members, anyone can sign up for free, there's no benefit for current pass-holders. The charge is only being introduced later.
So no one pays the fee. So people complaining about the fee are wrong. My original post asked that question and it got side tracked with people squabbling about semantics. Semantics being the definition of pass holder vs card holder which in the context was apparent.
No. That still isn't semantics There is no possible way that 'season ticket holders' could be taken to mean 'members'. It's no big deal, so just move on with your point
Free membership for existing passholders = some office worker types 'Y' against existing details. What a bonus. So a family with two kids , wanting to start watching City, will have to pay £200 for an office worker to complete 10 minutes admin? In the real B2B world, a business pulling this stunt would be grilled by its customer about it and asked for a breakdown of such high costs for a simple straightforward task.
B But some will have to if they aren't current pass holders...from what I see anyway (I agree with you on that )
The joining fee is to stop people cancelling and rejoining after the close season. Simple as that. Nothing to do with administration fees
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I am not arguing, it is ridiculous. Anyone wanting to sign up for this should not have to pay for joining at the introduction of this scheme if it goes ahead (it shouldn't but that is another thing). However, I'll judged as the whole thing is I can see the logic in having this charge after the first season. 250,000 Bayern fans pay over £50 a year for the chance to go into a raffle for the half of the tickets made available. They only make half available to buy as season tickets as they want to make sure the same group of people aren't there every week and new and potential fans get a chance to see them. Thing is these things only work if demand exceeds supply. Our dog's dinner of a scheme is going to be hamstrung by the fact crowds are already declining and are embarrassingly low for a club which has been in an automatic promotion spot for much of the season. Compare Brighton and Derby's crowds to ours. Of course the reasons for that are many, prices, owners, match day experience and others...
