Why Ehab needs to start attending matches

So you agree the FWG is ignored by the club? This suggests that James Mooney, the instigator and organizer of the FWG is either foolish, naive, or a very good liar. On a personal level I like James, so I will just go for the first two.

 

I agree HCST did not exist.

The Trust want to join their world. Its why they are on the FWG and support legislation giving them a place on the Board.

If we don't get promoted we could lose another 8,000 supporters because of the membership scheme. Supporters we are unlikely to get back. Once that dawned on the club they backtracked. They are looking to square the circle and I suspect they are finding it difficult which is why OLM says a new announcement isn't imminent.

The club has to weigh up the costs of keeping the upper west open against the likely attendances, the amount they are losing through ticket fraud against the costs of effectively policing it against having a fixed rate. This against a background of paying for a premier league team in the championship with another £5 million cut from the parachute payments.

I expect the Trust to be offering to talk to the club about finding a solution. I would expect the Trust to do that after talking to those affected and not just its members. It is in the interest of Hull City to find a solution as soon as possible, the Trust could help achieve that. That's what I would expect a supporters' representative of the Board to do.

If Ehab isn't interested then there's not a lot the Trust can do apart from oppose the changes. But it would have tried and that would be enough for me.

In the meantime it would have recruited many more members by talking to them and trying to get a solution that they can live with.

 

Maybe you should ask who broke the confidentiality agreement?

The OSC is STILL working with the club, they respond to our official emails. At this present time, the OSC has not asked its FWG rep to contact the club in any capacity. The email group that OLM mentions is not sanctioned by the OSC and had no mandate to contact any other group members.

 

I would say because you don't upset the owners very much and you try to offer solutions to problems they face.

 

I would say James Mooney works within certain parameters set by Ehab. Everything outside those boundaries is down to him and he will do what he can and agrees within. Anything inside those parameters will be met by a brick wall.

 

Massive steps forward have been made, only to be set back by the actions of a few individuals. You can point as many fingers at James Mooney as you like, but in this case he is not the guilty party. If I was in his position, I would find it very hard to trust some of the individuals on the FWG again.

OLM paints a false picture and he knows it. He is a ****.

 

Exactly, you don't give a ****. You're a ****.

 

Was it broken?

I think a fair few assumed that the club had given some info to Burnsey.

 

Thought someone on HCST broke it then resigned?

 

Really?

That's a poor show if it's true. It would create even more barriers for talks with the club.

 

No, the confidentiality agreement was broken, two people spoke to Burnsy about it. Neither had attended the FWG meeting. I guessed one of them from the get go, but was surprised at the other.

It wasn't OLM by the way who spoke to Burnsy. But he is still a ****.

 

So presumably, the people that spoke to Burnsy found out from somewhere other than someone at the FWG?

 

I'm waiting for the outrage from the usual.

A high ranking OSC Commandant referring, more than once, to a fellow HCAFC supporter who is the current Not606 conduit to the FWG as well as a former HCST director as a "****" whilst seemingly being representative of the OSC at the time.

People will want to know if this is the view of the OSC & also suggest that this isn't the way a high level Officer should be conducting themselves. They 'll suggest that this type of behaviour doesn't make the OSC appear a welcoming place or help in attracting new membership.

""You're a ****" say the OSC." I can see the headline now.

 

At least we have that settled, there was no HCST.

Are you sure they want to join their world? I thought they wanted to get the best for their members and the wider supporting community and that, from experience, means not joining their world. That does not preclude them from taking up a limited board position, if ever one were offered and it certainly wouldn't prevent them attending the FWG - although my thoughts on that are known.

The membership scheme is to be announced, until it is no one knows jack. I don't know where you get 8,000 lost supporters from, or how you blame any losses purely on any new membership scheme. Are these the type of details you would expect to be discussed at some strange preemptive meeting? No new announcement is forthcoming, although one source, or another, has been predicting one for a while now, so it is difficult to judge major meetings and initiatives on this basis.

The pros and cons of the scheme have been discussed to death and not relevant to our discussion.

It is my understanding, from comment on here and elsewhere, that we will lose those players anyway, so what big payroll?

I believe the Trust has offered to talk to the club, on numerous occasions - I'm sure they will clear that one up; perhaps it might be more reasonable of you to expect the club to respond.

How on earth do you know they would have recruited many more members by talking to them? You are making stuff up to support your criticism and to try and put some nice romantic solution in place - the Allams do not talk to anyone, that is and always has been the problem. You seem to have learned very little from the duration of their ownership, their statements, interviews, actions, lies and manipulation.

 

im currently working my 4 week notice at work, hence why I am on here more often
my boss has spoken about 5 words to me since I told him last Monday, so the days are long and slow...
so any healthy arguments that keep the threads ticking over suit me, just keep it above the belt guys..

 

That rules out ****, prick, arse & bollocks.

Too tame, there's only tits & nipples left.

"The OSC say OLM is still a tit" doesn't have the same ring.

 

I totally agree, maybe I should resign. Maybe, I am angry because all the hard work that has been done by the OSC and which you have kindly "liked" has just about gone up in smoke, because someone not connected with the OSC broke a confidentiality agreement. Maybe, if you had just spent the weekend working on future projects for supporters, to find out that all of the goodwill had evaporated, whilst a former director of the HCST and Not606 Conduit was blowing smoke up the forums arse, you might use the word "tit".

Odd thing to be posted from so far and yet so near.