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Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by swanseaandproud, Apr 11, 2016.

  1. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    I am looking forward to what these yanks will bring as there have been some successes and some failures over the years that we all know about.
    After reading numerous articles about what these yanks have bought and developed is a huge positives for me ...DC united their other football club (or soccer club to them) have really developed since they bought the club but like the liberty it was small and fair play they put their money where their mouth is and DC United will be moving into their brand new spanking stadium sometime in 2018 and these guys are looking to see if they can buy the liberty and expand it to a level fitting for a premiership club and i bet they wont pussy foot around getting things done either.......The Morgans have confessed by the way that they cannot take the club any further so new owners is a must....Here below is just a small snippet on what is possible under the new owners.........just a word of warning some of the dots over the I's and crosses over the T's have still to be made before everything is official but im confident that should be sorted this week...


    The expansion of the Liberty Stadium has been on Swansea's agenda for some time because its capacity of a little under 21,000, the second smallest in the Premier League, is a hindrance for the club.


    Bigger crowds will bolster revenue and Levien appears to grasp the importance of such matters, with DC United moving into a new football-specific stadium in 2018.

    It will be interesting to see how close a relationship Swansea and DC United would form if Levien and Kaplan's deal is finalised.

    The Swans would become the third Premier League team to share common ownership with an MLS franchise, following Arsenal and Manchester City, whose owners also own the Colorado Rapids and New York City FC respectively.

    The American influence on British football is growing stronger but, with Jenkins and the supporters' trust retained, Swansea will hope they can preserve their identity in this marriage of old and new.
     

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  2. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    If you've taken the time to read various articles then I suggest you need to carry on researching before hoping this comes off .Be careful what you wish for >
     
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  3. Stumpy

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    Do the Americans have a buy to sell track record? I can answer that one yes they do.

    Is this a purchase or a takover?

    Is the £100m mentioned to be used for share purchase and not as an investment?

    Will the club see a penny of the £100m?

    Is the £100m mentioned, plus the finance for the purchase of the Liberty to be underpinned through a corporate loan scam as per Man Utd, Liverpool, Villa? All were promised huge riches and glory however all were saddled with huge debt of the loan taken out by the new owners to purchase them. Neither Man Utd, Liverpool nor Villa have recovered from this scam and all are still repaying the loan used to 'buy' them.

    Why were the Swansea supporters trust recently blocked from increasing their stake to 25% by majority share holders?

    Why were Swansea supporters trust and other share holders not informed of ANY negotiations?

    Why were Swansea supporters trust and other share holders not included in ANY of the negotiations?

    Why were negotiations held behind closed doors, kept a secret and not attended by all share holders?

    Is this 'deal' simply a consequence of the fall out and subsequent divorce settlement between THE majority share holder of the club and his wife: who allegedly has won her legal battle to secure his shares in the Swans? Was Dyers wife worth it?

    Also this could well put off Rodgers and other managers because it cant be good for them to have to skip over the pond once a month to justify results to corporate Americans.

    2016 debt free, 2017 over £100m, plus the cost of purchasing the liberty, plus interest, in debt and the new training facilities in Fairwood could well be a spanking new golf course in the near future. Just thinking like
     
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    Questions that won't need answers if we " Just Say No " . The trust not being able to increase it's shares should stop everyone in their tracks to think .
     
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    If the Yanks are simply purchasing the Morgans majority share, which I think is what is happening here, then the value of that share holding is approx. £30 to £40 Million, and if you are the board room selling share holders, you are not required to include other boardroom share holders in the negotiations, including the trust, but it would be expected to keep the rest of the boardroom informed.

    Also the other boardroom share holders would need to approve the sale, and ratify if it is in the best interest of the club. it's clear to me that the £140 Million is more than just purchasing the Morgan's share interest, and clearly there is a significant investment into the club and infrastructure, with a clear view to the two main issues of (1) Stadium purchase and expansion, (2) investment into the Squad.

    Clearly talks are at an advanced stage, if this is to be completed by the end of the season, which is just 4 weeks away, and I'm sure that once the complete package has been approved by the Board (including the Trust) then we will see the details of how the investment will be spent, and what are the conditions of that investment..............<ok>
     
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    Some Donald Trump wannabe on the way perhaps.......god bless usa......
     
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    Watch this space .......
     
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  9. swanseaandproud

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    You should think more positive here and grasp the fact that at last the clubs major share owners have admitted they can no longer move the club forward and that can only mean one thing and that is the buying and expansion is dead in the water with them and instead of the club progressing its future is more of struggling to survive with our chances of staying in the premiership much longer is not good.......We cannot stand still and do nothing or we will be just waiting for our turn of relegation which without investment is close, The club has been looking for investors for a very long time and should grasp this with both hands as we are going nowhere without it. sometimes you have to trust that this is a blessing for the club and think in a positive way because without it we cant move forward.. We need Investment and we have a chance of investment so grab it with both hands and think of the positives not the negatives...
     
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    This guarantees nothing though does it. yes it could send us soaring, it could see us standing still with were we are (not a bad thing), it could also see us raped by these guys and slide down the league. I agree we need investment to move forward. But there is something I don't like about this and cant help feeling that this will be a bad thing for us, in giving away a majority they can do exactly what they want and that scares me. Yes Jenks may still be there and the trust, but what say will they have now. clubs owned by Yanks in the PL are, Villa, Sunderland, Liverpool (second American owners), Arsenal and Man Utd. Short of Arsenal and you could say that their ownerships haven't been the biggest success. would be interesting what fans from those clubs think.

    If this is the course we are going to take then we have to go with it, I just hope it works.
     
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    Life is one big gamble....I would rather think of the positives this take over will bring than the what if's, The fact is we need investment if we are going to improve and after a long search we look to have found people that have been successful and are willing to invest in our club. Grab it now while its on offer before they lose interest and invest in another club that are out there wanting investment themselves....
     
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    Taffvalerowdy Well-Known Member

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    Dai - haven't your contacts told you the full background story........
     
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    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    But aren't the possible benefits 'What If's' as well.
     
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    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    You have had the story, i told you weeks ago that the morgans want out as they have other projects they want to pursue........The rest has come from the clubs announcement Saturday. I think this is the best news ever and we should be over the moon with such a possible investment...
     
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    Taffvalerowdy Well-Known Member

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    Dai - so you don't know the whole story!
     
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    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    I do know that this is a great chance of bringing investment into the club that is something we have been trying to do for a long time.....I hope everything gets finalised soon....without it we will struggle....
     
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    I agree with this Stumpy. It might be all level and above board, if so, why keep it all so ever secret. There`s talk of a majority stake, do the Morgan`s have a 51% stake, I don`t know hence the question?

    Extra money is all well and good, but not at the expense of the club, until further news of this is explained clearly and not in jargon, I`m on the fence.

    Remember the slogan "run by fans for the fans", that`s gone by the board, so to speak.<laugh>
     
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    Taffvalerowdy Well-Known Member

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    I agree with that perspective .......
     
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  19. Taffvalerowdy

    Taffvalerowdy Well-Known Member

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    The Morgans have 22.5%
     
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    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    The Americans will own 75% of shares which will give them overall control so it looks like its not just the morgans who have cashed in their shares....
     
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