I quite enjoyed his Wilbraham thread to be honest, because when you think about it afterwards maybe bloody Wilbraham might have done a bit better than a few of our own suspects and that's how bad it's gotten under Bruce
This is what you came out with. I explained to you how transfers work at the club and who's responsible for choosing the players and you started waffling about Ehab. It isn't overly simplistic to blame the manager, he's the only one to blame. He scouted them (apparently) for our team, he put it to the board to sign them, he then picks them to play and sees them in training. At what point is it somebody elses fault that they are under performing? It has nothing to do with wage structures or recruitment budgets as every player signed is done so with the full support of the board, they trust Steve's judgement in the transfer market and back him with whatever players he needs. This imaginary figure you seem to have invented has zero bearing on Steve's ability to choose players.
Can we ban this ****? He adds **** all, and devalues every thread he smothers in his ****. And he probably owns less brain cells than patty.
He'll only pop back on one of his other accounts. A mod needs to give the nod to someone to flush the toilet of humanity.
Maybe the players SB wanted got snapped up by someone else and we were left with little room to manoeuvre by the time our main targets had gone elsewhere? We've failed to sign quality attackers since 2008- starting with the Fraizer Campbell fiasco, which was a case in point...we waited and we waited ....and we waited.
But it's still his fault because whoever we bring in is down to him. It doesn't matter what choice they were, he wouldn't choose somebody who is no better than League 2 level would he? Bruce brought in Jelavic, Gedo, Long, Aluko and Hernandez, all of whom have scored goals for us/ done well at one time or another. Your point was to try and absolve Steve Bruce of blame for the quality of players we are bringing in. The fact we missed out on somebody else is irrelevant because the next choice is still Steve Bruce's choice. At some point he'll say well there's nobody out there who can improve on what we've got and he won't bring anybody in, hence our quiet January window. Say it. Say Steve Bruce was to blame. Take the first step towards acceptance.
What was our transfer budget? What is our salary budget? What are our salary caps/ wages structures? Unless these are known, it's futile discussing the players who we eventually signed from a point of view of blaming the manager for bringing them in. By all means, express your disappointment with the quality of them but how much 'influence' SB had in recruiting them is debatable. Was it his decision to sell Long last season when we did? Was it his call to insist on the sale of Ndoye and Jelavic before we signed any more big money strikers? And when those transfers went through, how much time was left and who was still out there to buy?
His actions in the transfer market are an exact replica of what he does on the football pitch. If the first option goes tits up he'll grasp at straws for any other that MIGHT or MIGHT NOT work. Get over it… he's ****, he loves spending money, not his money, but in all the time at this or any other club he has yet to discover a real gem someone who has gone on to make the big time or even someone he has improved significantly. The Allams openly admit they know nothing about football, do you think the old man is coming to him and telling who to buy. Wake up!!!!
It isn't debatable, he picked them. What is it about this whole 'Steve Bruce chooses the players' thing are you not getting? In terms of recruitment, he picked those lads as potential Hull city players, not Ehab or Assem. Things like having to sell before he buys are out of his hands, yes, but the players we have persisted with all season are players that were here anyway. Akpom has only been a peripheral figure but I'd wager Bruce would've brought him in anyway.
What part of the whole 'Steve Bruce signs the best players available at the time and with the transfer fee/salary budget constraints in place' thing are you not getting?
I'm not getting why he spent the money he had available on a keeper who won't play for us this season and a midfielder we didn't need. Suggesting that there were no strikers available is nonsense, as other clubs in a worse position than us signed them.
The bit where it absolves Steve Bruce of blame, you know, the original point you made? You're trying to dodge the point again and I'm not going to let you. You will literally place responsibility anywhere else but on our manager, won't you? Even on bits that Steve has no control over. Bruce has nothing to do with the budgets or the wage control, so why are those factors being mentioned? We're talking about the responsibility Bruce has to sign quality players. We had the money to very nearly sign Andre Gray, so why wasn't the same amount spent elsewhere? He didn't run out of time at all, we didn't sign any strikers permanently in January so what are you on about? Plus it's not only the quality of the player but the ability to get them motivated and playing to their potential.
I don't know why he spent the money on a keeper. I don't need to know. I don't know what options or constraints he had. Nor do I need to know. Maybe the strikers he wanted were too expensive salary-wise for Ehab, given the ongoing wage bill. Yet again I don't know. I am not Steve Bruce's confidante nor am I Ehab's spokesman.
