You seem to struggle to keep with this subject. With the facts that were posted on the clubs own website ( apparently two years in the making ) the poster in questions small group of an adult, an OAP and a child would have been worse off. An exception may have been possible if they had been sat in the most expensive seats and for next season moved into the cheapest seats, those in the corners. As of last week due to all the complaints the whole thing is under review. No one knows what the amendments will be. How they will resolve all the problems in two weeks remains to be seen. ( They can't ) An additional spanner in the works is the question of the upper west stand, they said it would be closed if we don't get promoted. It could be the end of May before we know for sure. How will / can they move a few thousand fans from the most expensive seats ( best view ) to inferior ones when their only selling point is, it will be cheaper.
I'm not struggling to keep on subject. I'm basing everything I've said off the tweets from Burns who also broke the story the first time around.
That does seem to be the sticking point. My posts were on the assumption they were considered a family.
You mean the owners who have guided us to our highest ever league finish, first ever cup final, first ever european venture? The owners who have invested in by far our most valuable ever playing squad? The owners who have finally seen to the total lack of scouting, youth development, facilities for both the youth squad and seniors etc? On the evidence at hand 'my way' seems like the right way to me.
I don't know anything other than what's been made public already, I'm expecting to get details tomorrow night and I expect all details to be made public on Thursday (neither of those are confirmed yet, but that's what I'm expecting).
It looks like nobody will be forced to move out of their existing seats in the South, but people will still have to move out the West Upper if we don't get promoted and people will still have to move if they want to sit in a cheaper zone (there are potentially still large increases for OAP's and kids who don't want to move). I'm not expecting the amendments to the scheme to be radical, the changes will reduce the amount of people who need to move and will lessen the financial blow for some of those most badly effected, but there's still likely to be a lot of upheaval for many.
Supposedly. It was originally to be last night, but didn't happen, tomorrow was suggested as a replacement, but it's not confirmed yet.
Strikes me as a token gesture. The input should have been much earlier in the process so that feedback can be provided by those affected, or with an understanding of the issues, not just a few random people presented with a fait accompli a few hours before it's published. The previous presentation would seem to support that. It went belly up once fans heard what it was.
I appreciate that some are waiting for the 'final' release, but other than individual grumblings, I'm surprised at the lack of any attempts at a collective response for something that potentially will have a big impact on many. Sadly, I think previous actions have seen many of those best able to act, walking away.
It's just being done as a courtesy, the club want to show that they listened to concerns raised and acted on them, there's obviously not going to be any opportunity to change things further.
It's difficult for people to respond to something they haven't yet got the details of, I'm sure there will be a response once the details are clear.
As seemingly the presentation to the FWG lacked detail, by far the bulk of the concerns were raised by fans, In which case it looks even more like a token gesture to show something a few hours early to a few with no opportunity for comment.
All the concerns raised since the initial release were also raised at the FWG, despite the lack of detail. We didn't need much detail to know people wouldn't want to move seats.
Lacking details, but knowing the general principle and fans having no real input into the process should be enough in themselves. They are what have caused this and other **** ups. Even if they now get it right, which seems unlikely, some fans are still seeing the process so far as the final straw, and walking away.
That isn't how it came across,the feedback seemed to be that it was generally a good thing with a few liable to be disappointed, but in any event, the club still went ahead with it. It wasn't until fans started to voice their concerns that anything happened. The fundamentals of "earning stripes" needs to be looked at with consideration to those that already more than earned theirs.
Looking on the bright side ( for the Allam's ) the next vote for the name change will go in their favor. The only supporters left will be those, it's his club he can do what he want type.
