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Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by PINKIE, Dec 27, 2012.

  1. omogooner

    omogooner Well-Known Member

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    I think you could say it was a good season, if you only managed to sneak in to top4 (with the usual parties in the fray)... I can see what you are doing (I am just indulging you), and you are trying to talk your team down and get the excuses in. Your team has been consistent, for majority of season, and you should be pretty upset if you get this far and end up not winning it. You have had chances to put pressure on Leicester, and each time you have not taken them. So please let us not pull the line of "we did not expect to win ther league this season blah blah" Leicester did not set out to win the league at the onset, however, if they end not winning it now, they would be pretty upset.... Top4 for them is pretty nailed on at this point.
     
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  2. Skylarker

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    If Spurs finish above Arsenal with kids in a season that had Arsenal written all over it, it's got to hurt.

    Lets face it. Arsenal simply had to win it with all the big clubs in pieces. Yet top 4 is their honour and glory - again.

    Painful. Ouch. Oops.
     
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  3. Lee263

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    Arsenal really are the living breathing Groundhog Day.
     
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  4. Arsenal87

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    Wenger is the main problem but his end is near just one more year and then we can finally move on. He is the one that has consistently kept us away from winning things and indeed that is why many of us are frustrated. We have everything we need to win but because bof him we dont ie poor tactics bad motvatoon and lack of transfer activity.
     
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  5. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    Seriously...A gooner claiming we should be disappointed with our season?
    <laugh>
    The only teams that EVER finish above you are **** this season and you still won't win the premier league. ..and you mock us <laugh>
    No one thought we'd get top 4 this season so getting it is a success...For us.
    For you the excuses have gone...no excuses can justify your lot bottling the title. ..it's been the biggest choke ever when you consider that Chelsea City United an Liverpool (the only teams that finish above you) have crashed and burned this season.
    Your excuses about them buying the title, paying for the Emirates and having a young team have gone and still you came up short.
    <laugh>
     
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  6. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    So where's the reason optimism then?
    We have a young team, a young manager, we have improved in defence and attacking wise and next year the team will have more experience...that's why we feel optimistic. ..you seem to be saying you are optimistic cos you can sack your manager and get rid of **** players and get in new ones
     
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  7. Arsenal87

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    Forgive me but isnt this another year with loserpool not winning the league? So laughable a scouser wants to go on about not winning the league because you lot have obviously been winning league titles for fun in the last 25 years.
     
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  8. Arsenal87

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    Dont need to get rid of much. Many already leaving by end of this year. If we add just two to three world class players a striker a cb and if need be a winger then we are very good to go even with what we have and possibly wenger too.
     
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  9. omogooner

    omogooner Well-Known Member

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    I really do not get how all of a sudden we were dead certs to win the league. The big club are in pieces. I doubt if any pundits expected us to win the league at the start of the season. Particularly as we did not sign any outfield players and had to rely on Giroud. Clubs like Citeh, Manure and Chelsea have not played to their levels, we on the other hand have been pretty consistent (as we have been for the past 11 years). Play well at the start, lose our way, injuries and then pick it up again when the pressure is off. Liverpool would give everything to be where we are currently..
     
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  10. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    Leicester would be disappointed because they have led it since mid January.
    You lot will be upset cos if asked before the season started who will win the league if united, city, chelsea and liverpool all have bad seasons, EVERYONE would have said arsenal...no amount of calling us bottlers will change the fact that arsenal have pulled off their biggest bottle job ever.
     
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  11. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    No one said you were dead certs... but are you seriously suggesting that with united , chelsea, city and Liverpool being cack that you were not favourites to win the premier league? With those 4 being **** Arsenal should have walked the league...no one else other than those 4 teams EVER finishes above you...and yet you've still not won it...and you can no longer claim you have a young inexperienced team of kids, or that stronger teams have won it, or you can't compete for players cos you're paying off your stadium.
    You should be above us and Leicester at this point...personally think you will finish second but hope I am wrong.
    Leicester deserve all the credit they get and I would love to have been in their position...but we have made progress this season and in all honesty I don't think the same can be said about arsenal.
     
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  12. BrunelGooner

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    Sorry, but this is absolute bollocks in every possible way. Having only signed Cech in the transfer window, and with no-one anticipating Chelsea or City underperforming drastically this season, no-one expected us to win the league. Yes, we have underperformed this season, but statements like ''biggest bottle job ever'' are well wide off the mark. If we finish 2nd/3rd/4th, it would have been what most fans would have said after the transfer window. Hardly awful or disastrous by any stretch of the imagination. Most pundits believed that City would win it or Chelsea would retain it anyway.

    What Leicester are doing right now is fairytale, cinderella stuff that normally doesn't happen in this age of super rich clubs. If we're going to get criticised for underperforming this season, as we rightly should be because we do have minimal excuses for performing so badly, then so should every other side in the league as Leicester were only promoted last season and look like winning the league the following year. So what's every other team's excuse?

    And by the way, don't pretend like you wouldn't feel some degree of disappointment if Spurs didn't win the league when you consider that only Leicester been your real competition. You've had multiple chances to take advantage of other sides slipping up or capitalising and you've rarely taken them when you've been expected to. You may not have expected to be in this position at the start of the season, but neither did Leicester. And you're foolish if you think their fans wouldn't be disappointed if they don't go on to win the league at this point.

    So don't give me that bollocks, RCL.
     
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  13. omogooner

    omogooner Well-Known Member

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    This is precisely everything I have been clumsily trying to say! He keeps harping on about us being disappointed, and Spuds should be lauded if they finish top 4.... Either he is just been intentionally obtuse or really does not get it!
     
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  14. BrunelGooner

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    Liverpool fans in 2013/14 were gutted they didn't win the league. They finished 2nd and although it's still a very impressive league finish because no-one expected it having finished 7th the previous season, it was still hard for their fans to take because they genuinely looked like they were going to win it. It's the same principle for Spurs this season. Not many would have expected to challenge for the league at the beginning of the season, but as events unfold when the season goes on, expectations get adjusted accordingly.
     
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  15. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    So on sept 1st when transfer window closed you are told that come the last 7 matches of the season you would be miles ahead of chelsea and liverpool and comfortably ahead of united and city you'd have been happy to come 2nd, 3rd or 4th?

    Leicester were our only challengers? You were 7 points ahead of us on 13th january and 2 points ahead of Leicester on 12th January. ..yet you claim you ain't bottled the title!
    And are you suggesting you were never in the title race? That's a pretty damning claim imo.
    We have let opportunities slip against west ham, toon and yourselves...but tgen we have the youngest team in the prem and one of the youngest managers. What is your excuse for blowing a 7 point lead over us? And blowing a lead over Leicester ?

    Re the transfer window...YOUR club chose to only buy a keeper...you act like it was forced upon you...you have money to burn yet refused to buy players you needed...you have suffered the consequences of stupid planning. In previous years you had a young team, were being out spent etc but those reasons don't apply this year...that's another reason this season has been bad for you...you have simply stood still.

    The idea that gooners can take any satisfaction from this season is laughable. .. we have clearly improved as a team...and show signs that this improvement can continue...you have not.

    your fans scream for a new manager. .. they have turned on various players like Walcott, Ox C and Ramsey because they have seen you do what you have done many times before but this time there is no money bag city, chelsea or united winning the title to hide behind.

    fair enough if you think I am talking bollocks but I think your team has bottled this season big time. No city, chelsea and united should have meant you were champions.
    you were 6-1 for the title in September while we were over 70-1 cos we failed to win any of our 1st 4 matches!
     
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  16. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    I aint being obtuse...if we had led the league then I would get your point...but we aint...Leicester and you had a 7 point lead over us in mid January. ..we clawed back 4 points on them but then lost to west ham and drew with you...they then pulled away again...we simply have not matched them...that doesn't equate to us bottling the league...it means they were and are a better team than us...you were 2 points ahead of them in mid January yet claim that you aint bottled anything!
    And I ain't said we should be lauded for coming 4th...I have said that coming in the top 4 is real progress for us...but for you it is not.
    You are tge one being obtuse by refusing to see that with out united city and chelsea winning the league then EVERYONE would expect you lot to win it...and to still come top 4 but not win the league in these circumstances is a failure for Arsenal.
     
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  17. remembercolinlee

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    Liverpool were top of the league and favourites until 3 games to go...how on earth is it the same...the desperation on here to claim we have blown the league is farcical. ..you lot were above Leicester by 2 points in January...you were 7 points ahead of us...you blew the league...this should have been Arsenal's year with city, united and chelsea being so poor and no amount of spin about spurs will change that.
     
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    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    Any way this will just go round in circles and I think I have outstayed my welcome so have a good evening all
     
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  19. omogooner

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    I think you are here on a wind up. Your attempt at wummery is really pathethic. So we had a 7point lead over you guys in January? I take it that the league is won in January? This season for us is no different to the previous 10 seasons, we were found wanting. But you coming on here gloating and saying if Leicester go on to win the league, it is only an indictment of Arsenal FC and no other team is really poor. You did not win any of your first 4 games, what is the relevance of that?
    If Leicester go on to win the league, they would have deserved it (over the course of the season), no point in looking for scape-goats, at least we can say we beat them home and away :)!
     
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  20. remembercolinlee

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    Not on a wind up...just offering a different view to others on here
    BrunelGooner said that Leicester were our only challengers to the title in an earlier post hence my comment re January when Arsenal were clearly in the running.
    BrunelGooner also said that in sept after you only signed cech you could not expect arsenal to win the league hence my 1st 4 matches comment.
    I agree that Leicester have won it fair and square and aint looking for an excuse...they have been better than us all season. ..that's why we have never been above them.
    However some on this board have claimed we bottled it and have hid Arsenal's failure behind bollocks of us having no bottle.
    I see real progress in our season and reason to be pleased with our season...I dont have any gooner mates who feel the same way. I certainly aint gloating re you lot...I still think you'll finish above us...we are showing signs of running out of steam and our squad depth ain't strong enough...so there is nothing to gloat about.
     
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