Off Topic Political Debate

Will Nicola Sturgeon's aim of increasing the higher tax rate in Scotland lead to an exodus of talented folk to England.?

It cannot be good for the financial sector currently working north of the border.

 

SH. most polls indicate that the British public is in favour of renationalization of the railways - in fact, it is the left wing aspects of Corbyn's programme which appear to have the most support. Britain already has controlled immigration - or what are the passport controls about ? Any European citizen who is wanted, or has a record relating to terrorism can be stopped at entry, inside or outside of the EU. Illegal immigration is also a completely different theme which also is not related to Britain's membership of the EU. You are also not in the position of being able to make assumptions about me regarding the time of my absence etc. I have been living in Germany for 26 years but still have family in the UK. I am also active in politics here and particularly in the field of European cooperation, cultural exchange visits etc. and through that medium I probably know more people who are active in British politics than you yourself do.

 

Corbin only has support amongst the small group of unrepresentative party members.

Not sending europeans back to their countries is quite different from being able to limit future immigration from much poorer areas of the EU currently suffering due to the failed euro project.

 

Can I add potential damage to the NHS in Scotland, all those highly paid GPs, consultants, surgeons etc.

 

I don't really want to get involved in a political brawl, we're all Hornet's after all, but I'm interested SH that you are happy to pay Sky:
"I'm happy to pay for Sky Sports. Without the Sky money in the English game we would not have the Pozzo family and the wonderful players we have witnessed at the Vic over the past few years."
but don't see that paying more tax means we can invest in our nation's healthcare and education. Perhaps the Scots, and dare I say it, the English, would be happy to invest in the really important things in life? Rather than running away from their responsibility.
Isn't this akin to facing up to fact that it is easy to personally avoid paying Sky, but still enjoy the fruits of such investment by the majority?

Come on you Golden Boys

 

"Corbin only has support amongst the small group of unrepresentative party members"...... Nonsense !

 

Are you surprised?

 

I'm not advocating people leaving Scotland to avoid paying taxes but accepting human nature in reality. If taxes are higher in Scotland by a conceivable amount it will undoubtedly lead to relocation of business and personnel to a lower tax region.
If Scotland has remaining desires for independence it would need to raise taxes dramatically to plug its black hole without the current funding from whitehall.

I would like Sturgeon to impose the higher rates to test your theory.

As the junior doctors dispute has shown it is all about the money.

 

Ok I exaggerated, there is also an ex plumber in Blackburn and two old ladies in Luton.

 

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Whatever the reasons good or not for MPs not being in the chamber..... Is it not about time we overhauled our outdated parliamentary system?

 

It is being overhauled for 2020 producing a reduction in the number of MP's. It would have happened sooner had the Lib Dems not reneged on their promise.

 

Could you provide a link to these polls Cologne? In my experience the only people who wish for a return to British Rail are the State Socialists in the New New Labour Party who would nationalise anything and everything and rail users who want more subsidies by the tax payer to keep their fares down - why should I subsidise a rail users commute? Also what benefits would nationalisation of the railways provide - apart from providing jobs for the politicians mates to demonstrate how inept they are.

 

mmmm...


https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/08/06/support-radical-left-and-right/


and this one says the majority of Tory voters too:

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2013/11/04/nationalise-energy-and-rail-companies-say-public/

Taking the political element out most people want the public services at a fair price without the sense of companies making profits out of what are basic needs it seems........

 

Your poll is from November 2013 and there has been an election since then which didn't do the nationalizers much good. Probably a better indicator of the public mood.

We have a mix of public and private health care which seems to work very well. Just as in the UK the government find it too expensive to run and are always looking to reduce the costs. Visit the doctor and you pay some part of the cost, which does make people think if by staying indoors and keeping warm you can get rid of a cold then why pay out.

 

Agreed re date... But wanted to point out that is not only people who wish for a return to British Rail are the State Socialists in the New New Labour Party...People want a joined up service that doesn't profit from their suffering.

Frenchie what happens in France when people cant afford to pay for their health care... or are on benefits etc?

 

OFH, can you still have more than one GP in France or just registered with one only?

 

As OFH has said the data is a bit aged and the split between the response to the questions and the respondents political stance is predictable. I still do not see what benefits can be taken by re-nationalising some of these industries. Some of the comments on those web pages are fascinating, it would seem that many are not really aware of their own countries history on this topic and they believe these are "national assets".

 

They do get free health care when they cannot afford to pay, providing they can get through the paperwork system.

Many people have forgotten now what a total shambles BR was when it was nationalized. I worked for them and saw from the inside what it was like. Five years of working on a safety system that was proved to work, then government said it was too expensive for the number of lives it would save. That system is now in place, but it took private finance to install it.

 

You are registered with one, but can go elsewhere and pay as a private patient if you wish.

 

Govt owns the franchising rights and leases the businesses to the operating companies... so when leases run out..... plus network rail is a govt owned company.

Question: Why does the Tory Govt want to sell off all OUR assets in the first place? Land Registry the latest?