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Giacch called up by Italy

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by cumbrianmackem, Mar 23, 2016.

  1. safcrocket

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    When a player is constantly in and out of injury, it's difficult to prioritise them, unless they are doing the business when fit again.

    How about look at it from the other way around? We sign an Italian international for 7-8mill + 40k per week. Over 3 seasons, he's injured most of the time, and when he is fit and does play, he doesn't exactly set the world alight. What do you expect us to do? Say "Ok Giacc, your injured most of the time, but when your not, we will play you every game, irrelevant of your performances, just to see if you might turn out good enough, but if your not good enough, it could cost us relegation"

    Get in the real world.
     
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  2. Brian Storm

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    You've said that twice now and I've already disproved it. Talk about ridiculous? Ignoring facts to pursue false statements is ridiculous. Me get in the real world? You can't read facts when they're waved in front of your face. ****ing idiot. <doh>
     
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  3. Billy Death

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    Handbags & gladrags.
     
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  4. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Hardly, handbags takes a bit of effort. It's effortless when you know your facts.
     
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  5. Billy Death

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    I was just being a knob.
    Sorry, I can be like that from time to time.
    Nee offence intended.
     
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  6. Brian Storm

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    It alright fella, I'm one to fan the flames myself. Problem is this leg-end is just too easy. He always has been.
     
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    Not now!!
     
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    Clueless!! He's a cracking player. Not Silva's level but probably, on his day, as good as Mahrez was when Leicester signed him. He was truly screwed by the managers we had here. Top player who never got a chance
     
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  9. safcrocket

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    Are you joking about the mahrez part?
     
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  10. safcrocket

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    He was injured one in every 4 games by your stats. How do you expect us to give him a run of games?

    And also, where was the Que to buy him once we made it clear we didn't want him? We are probably still paying his wages now.
     
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    When we signed him he'd just looked a world beater in an international tournament for Italy and the Juve manager loved him as a utility player.

    Mahrez was playing second tier football in France.

    I doubt he's joking but I presume you are.
     
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  12. marcusblackcat

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    No. You have seen giaccherini play a handful. Did you see mahrez's first 6 games? Apparently pretty similar if not less productive. You can't give a real comparison unless both players were given the same opportunity. He is a very good player Giaccherini. Just some only see what they want
     
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  13. safcrocket

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    Giacc joined at 28?

    Mahrez joined Leicester at 22-23?

    Giacc was in his prime, the same as payet for example. Leicester brought potential, we brought the finished article.

    There is the difference.

    Plus the first 6 games is irrelevant, Giacc played 30 for us, and showed nothing to prove himself.
     
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  14. Brian Storm

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    So how does that equate to being injured more oftern then not? It doesn't. You're talking ****e to the point you're not even thinking about what you're typing.

    Why would there be a queue to buy a player on premiership wages? There's been plenty of interest but there's a big difference between Seria A wages and the Premier League. Giaccs 30k pw is the biggest contract of his playing career. Nowhere outside the Prem can compete with those kind of wages. Would you take a 15k wage drop to play for another club permanently or would you just go out on loan to the same club and get your full 30k? It's not rocket science, it's not even safcrocket science. Engage your brain and think about it.
     
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  15. safcrocket

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    Your the one saying safc ****ed him over, and despite his below average performances, he wouldn't take a move elsewhere because he'd have to drop his wages?

    And WE ****ed him over did we?? <doh><doh><doh>

    I think your the one that needs to think about what your writing.
     
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  16. Brian Storm

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    See wrong again. It was good advice when I said think before you post. Marcus is on exactly the same page as me so I'm not the only one. To think Marcus actually said this to you. You'd think it would be fresh in your mind. It's even on the same page as we're on now <doh>

    And it's You're = You are. If you're going to tell people to think about their writing, perhaps try and change your writing style so you're not making the same grammar mistakes as you did on your previous accounts.<doh>
     
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  17. safcrocket

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    "We ****ed him over, never give him a chance. Glad we haven't ruined his career. Talented little player"

    That's what you said, it's in black and white.

    Stop trying to use what Marcus said. You said nothing about the managers, you said safc ****ed him over, and now you are trying all sorts squirm out of it.
     
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  18. Brian Storm

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    I've not denied that. You've missed the bit where I explained my working to you.

    See, same page as Marcus, as I said. It's there in black and white. You're clutching now.
     
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  19. QWOP

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    I remember when you signed Giacc. I was stunned. He is a very good player who was mistreated by your managers. The injuries might have played a part. I don't know. He is someone who should have been persisted with though. Under the right manager, he would do very well in the PL.
     
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  20. safcrocket

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    I think you can put all the excuses out there you want.

    The FACT is, he didn't produce and we let him go. He wasn't ****ed over, he was given chances but failed to impress.

    It didn't work out for him, we still probably pay his wages now, so I'd say he was pretty happy with his move to us. After all, he left juve to come to us, purely for money purposes. So to say that we ****ed him over is quire embarrassing.
     
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