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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Mar 22, 2016.

  1. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Now will you answer the question?
     
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  2. DMD

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    Charlie Chan say number two son usury solve crime.
     
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  3. highpeak tiger

    highpeak tiger Well-Known Member

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    They used to hang you for it
     
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  4. highpeak tiger

    highpeak tiger Well-Known Member

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    Work out how much the interest rate the Allams could borrow at and what they charge the club for the loan. If you are happy with it then fine.
     
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  5. Barchullona

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    That isn't usury though.
     
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  6. highpeak tiger

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    usury - an unconscionable or exorbitant rate or amount of interest; specifically : interest IN EXCESS OF A LEGAL RATE CHARGED TO A BORROWER FOR THE USE OF MONEY

    hmmm....a matter of opinion I think, but historically, guilty as charged
     
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  7. Barchullona

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    Not opinion, fact. What he is charging doesn't meet that definition.
     
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  8. highpeak tiger

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    Opinion!
    Your happy with it then?
     
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  9. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Why dont you expand and explain instead of pithy one liners. <ok>
     
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  10. Charon

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    ffs - all he is doing is transferring some of HIS money out of one of his companies and putting it into another - it's called managing your tax
     
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  11. Fez

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    <laugh> That's rich. <doh>
     
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  12. highpeak tiger

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    He claims to run the club to give something back to the city (except for the name) but is quietly taking a million or so out profit over the loan, that combined with any salaries (I cant be bothered to read the accounts) is making a nice pile every year. The loan profit is usually forgotten about but is considerable. I have no problem with them taking a reasonable salary but I object to the statement "Interest they are entitled to.". He's entitled to some, but takes rather more.
     
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  13. Obadiah

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    He doesn't take a salary. The club pays interest and may pay a management charge which includes part of his salary which is paid by Allamhouse. Its likely to cover other things such as accountancy costs.
     
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  14. balkan tiger

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    I,m one of the last to defend the Allams, But come on taking 5% on his investment of how many millions? even i don't have a problem with that.

    Oh and for whoever put the line " your money is safe in the bank " people who had money in Cyprus banks would disagree.
     
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  15. highpeak tiger

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    I stand corrected.
     
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  16. originallambrettaman

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    The Allams do plenty to be critical of, but the money they get from the club isn't really one of them.
     
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  17. Barchullona

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    So you are saying City could have got hold of millions at a lower rate of interest?
     
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  18. Barchullona

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    Agreed.
     
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  19. highpeak tiger

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    I think the Allams could, 5% is only ten times base rate
     
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  20. Barchullona

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    You really are struggling to try and equate what they have done with usury. Makes you wonder why previous owners couldn't get millions for less than 5% interest. If it isn't possible then they can't be accused of usury. Have another read of the definition.
     
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