1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Off Topic The Politics Thread

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

?

Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2013
    Messages:
    24,502
    Likes Received:
    23,933
    I'll resist making up some numbers of my own, but it must help the Irish economy to have multi-nationals pretend that they are trading in Ireland so as to avoid paying taxes in Britain. Fair play, though, Britain's answer is to cut Corporation tax even further - a race to the bottom. Still, we've probably got more disabled people than you.
     
    #2381
  2. finglasqpr

    finglasqpr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2011
    Messages:
    6,361
    Likes Received:
    3,797
    You are talking about Google, arn't you. They have their European HQ here. They have been ordered to account for their UK sales in the UK and to pay taxes there accordingly. The import/export figures I quoted are actual figures supplied by the Central Statistics Office here. The point I am making Stroller is that our slice of the American FDI cake is getting larger as American companies want an EU presence in an English speaking country.
     
    #2382
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2016
  3. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    36,051
    Likes Received:
    19,651

    Good moaning!
     
    #2383
    finglasqpr and GoldhawkRoad like this.
  4. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    115,919
    Likes Received:
    231,952
    The UK is one of the biggest fdis into the US
    Is that because of the massive Mexican speaking population
    Why would the US companies not invest in Ireland fingie
    Is the corporation tax at a good rate
    It has **** all to do with speaking English
    Most of Europe speak it better than the English
     
    #2384
  5. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2012
    Messages:
    30,829
    Likes Received:
    28,828
    I'll back Fingy up on this, a lot of multinationals are not only nominally based in Ireland (like Pfizer will be soon) but make a lot of high tech stuff there too, things that you need a skilled workforce for. My firm has a facility in Kinsale, which we are expanding, while we have closed our manufacturing in the UK (except for some vats in Liverpool where we brew stuff for animals) while developing manufacturing in Ireland, France, Spain and Italy. We do research in the UK though. We have been unable to find any real advantage out of doing real stuff in the UK ( despite being awarded Queen's Awrads for industry etc) whereas the financial and political benefits (especially in Spain and Italy) of having significant investments elsewhere are clear to us.
     
    #2385
  6. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2011
    Messages:
    9,739
    Likes Received:
    3,387
    I intend to piss over this comment. I shall say this only once...
     
    #2386
    finglasqpr and rangercol like this.

  7. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2013
    Messages:
    24,502
    Likes Received:
    23,933
    Forgive me Finglas. I don't doubt the figures, I was jut clumsily trying to make a point about Corporation tax rates.
     
    #2387
  8. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2011
    Messages:
    9,739
    Likes Received:
    3,387
    Sad to see that the Brit David Dixon has been confirmed dead, having taken the ill-fated Metro to avoid the bombed airport.

    The prudent rule in the event of a bomb going off in London or elsewhere would seem to be to avoid all public transport in case of a secondary attack, and simply walk. Being late for work is a small price to pay for safety
     
    #2388
  9. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    36,051
    Likes Received:
    19,651

    In fact, once you believe that you're in a safe place, the best thing to do would be to not go anywhere. Secondary attacks are very much the modern terrorists' MO. Sit tight for as long as feasible and then make your way home as best you can when you can.
    If transport is down and you don't have your own means of transport, get to a place of refuge, even a B&B and sit tight.
     
    #2389
    GoldhawkRoad likes this.
  10. QPR999

    QPR999 Well-Known Member Staff Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2011
    Messages:
    21,847
    Likes Received:
    19,298
    Good advice Goldie. In the event of an attack get yourself into a position where you're not confined. If there are any secondary attacks or devices you need to be able to run away.
     
    #2390
    GoldhawkRoad likes this.
  11. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    36,051
    Likes Received:
    19,651

    Very true. However, you could be running straight into the secondary attack. The immediate thing to do is to get safe if at all possible, running away is always your best defence against a gun attack in particular if you're unarmed/untrained, but then, if you believe you're reasonably safe, stay there till security forces arrive.
     
    #2391
  12. durbar2003

    durbar2003 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2013
    Messages:
    4,828
    Likes Received:
    2,394
    Listen to rangercol guys, he knows more about things than we do!!
     
    #2392
  13. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557
    We had a memo at work recently as we are a prime target here it seems, and this was part of the information/instruction given in the event of an attack.

    Good advice Col
     
    #2393
    rangercol likes this.
  14. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    36,051
    Likes Received:
    19,651

    Look at the previous post by Stainesy mate.
     
    #2394
  15. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    36,051
    Likes Received:
    19,651

    Stay safe mate.
     
    #2395
  16. durbar2003

    durbar2003 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2013
    Messages:
    4,828
    Likes Received:
    2,394
    Mate, that's why I said that mate, you are the best mate who know more than anybody about these things, Mate
     
    #2396
  17. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2012
    Messages:
    30,829
    Likes Received:
    28,828
    Finally, a powerful reason to vote Brexit. It would stop the free flow of players with EU passports into the English Leagues and enable us to have an enforceable cap for numbers of foreign players per squad. As a result we might win the World Cup. Can't wait for Johnson, Gove, IBS and Farridge ( he really shouldn't pronounce his name the French way, it rhymes with the English pronunciation of 'garage') to bring this up.
     
    #2397
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2016
  18. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2012
    Messages:
    30,829
    Likes Received:
    28,828
    So, it turns out that several of the business people on the list issued of being in support of leaving weren't asked and have requested for their names to be removed. What a shambles that campaign is. What an unnecessary own goal. Who is really going to make up their mind on the basis of what the ex owner of Phnones4U or the head of the Bangladeshi Retailers Association think anyway?
     
    #2398
  19. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    69,589
    Likes Received:
    57,050
    Some bloke posted on every Premier League team's board saying if we vote out it might mean their French players can't play any more :cheesy:
     
    #2399
  20. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2012
    Messages:
    30,829
    Likes Received:
    28,828
    Lots in the paper about anti-semitism in the more extreme bits of the Labour Party and even more worryingly on university campuses. People who can't tell the difference between being anti-Semitic and being anti Israel need to be taught a sharp lesson. There's a lot to criticise Israel for, but as the only functioning democracy in the region it should always be considered what the alternatives are.

    The Labour nutters are one thing, they are fundamentally totalitarian and anti dialogue, they'll soon be found out and marginalised. The students are another. There is a long and noble tradition of student protest, but nowadays it's all about themselves, they just protest about their own finances and opinions they don't want to hear (and which they don't understand because they refuse to listen). I'm sure it's only a small minority, but it's enough to ruin what should be a fantastic experience for thousands of others, and signifies a way of thinking that is completely abhorrent. As I have said to the point of tedium on here, you have the right to take offence (and give it), you do not have the right never to be offended.
     
    #2400
    rangercol and GoldhawkRoad like this.

Share This Page