Shelvy, has he played his last game?

It seems strange that you're laughing at the thought of us getting relegated Dai.

 

It could happen with our board.....is that my fault then..... This is how stupid our board has been this season ending up with one of our bright young managers unable to work with the club because of the way one member acted out of order and the chairman and board picking the players to join the club instead of letting Monk decide.......Well as we have seen its been a disaster and everyone who knows Monk know it is not his fault and they should have listened to him and not try to cover things up.....Jinks and the board got it terribly wrong this season. This is what was said about monks season......

MANAGER OF THE SEASON - Garry Monk
Very occasionally a young manager comes along with the courage to move players on, carefully select new additions and place them into a system that benefits the team as well as the player. Exceptional managers can do this without the slightest disruption to the culture of the football club and Garry Monk is proving to be one of those managers.

Swansea were in some difficulty after the departure of Michael Laudrup, so the club's directors put their trust in one of their own. A former player with the Swans, he captained the club through the divisions with, as he would admit, one eye on the top job. Personally I thought at 35 the appointment came far too soon but the job seem to fit Monk better than a Savile Row suit.

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Garry Monk made more than 220 appearances for Swansea in a 10-year playing career at the club, from 2004-14
Win, lose or draw, his post-match interviews are always honest and mostly temperate. I can only remember him losing his cool when he alleged that Victor Moses had dived in the box for Stoke.

An unfortunate incident but I understood his frustration. The way he handled the sensitive and somewhat protracted departure of Wilfried Bony to Manchester City with a casual shrug of the shoulders and then thrust Bafetimbi Gomis onto an unsuspecting public was pure genius.

The youngest manager in the most competitive league in the world has proved to be an amazing appointment. He has once again finished in the top half of the table for the second consecutive year - and done so almost unnoticed.

He follows some exciting young managers at Swansea like Rodgers and Roberto Martinez, both of whom have gone on to manage big clubs. I sense that Monk may soon follow in their footsteps.
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He's currently inundated with job offers , but decidedly biding his time as he knows that Real Madrid are always looking out for the brightest talent .I hear Pep Cloet /KoL and Beattie have the same agent so maybe because they did such a sterling job with us they'll go as the complete package ,what a dream team that would be .

 

Whoever gets him will get a very intelligent manager way above his years and i hope Villa a big club will be that team, If not then any championship or premiership club will suit his talents he obviously has in the management game...Good luck to him whoever are lucky enough to land him....

 

No that wouldn't be ironic at all. If on the other hand he had been sacked by us, went straight to Villa and kept them at our expense now that would have been ironic. Being sacked by a Premiership club, after leading a player revolt, due to poor results which had put them firmly in a relegation battle and then a year later taking over a Championship club now that would just be Karma.
Personally I thank him for his 1 good season for us but at the end of the day that's what it was no more no less. No different to ML.

 

Be more like a super miracle than ironicy , better chances with a lottery ticket purchase.
Monk took all the the good work previous managers did , along with Huw , and spent it on Monks first season , with a bit of luck to boot .
Imagine how greater a season we might have had if Monk would have actually used Britton , boggles the mind .
Monk's inexpierence reared its ugly head his second season . Dropping players who made such an impact that first season , and continuing it game after game so not to make himself look like he was mistaken .
Monk , if he is ever to get another job , should work on his credentials instead of throwing his hat into the media ring trying to scrap up a job while guys like Laudrup get and turn down jobs

 

Monk not only masterminded saving our season but continued the following season doing the double over man utd and Arsenal and finished the season the highest place we have ever been with the highest points total and was voted by most of his peers as the manager of the season....If some of you were to understand what was going on at the club at the time you would show him a bit more respect like the rest of the football world did as they saw him shafted. He never led a players revolt at all that's a stupid comment to make, The players were backing monk in his disgust of the way they treated Dyer and monk who is a no nonsense guy confronted Jenkins and the board about the incident and why he as manager was not consulted, He was also angry that Jenkins through the board went out and bought players without again consulting monk and was ordered yes that's right ordered to play certain players..Now if you agree they were right to do that then that's your prerogative but i totally agree with monk and his peers that it is a shoddy way to run the club and it can only lead one way. and it did.....Monk was not going to walk away as if he did he would not get a penny and he warned Jenkins he will not be held responsible for results when he cant pick the side.....Well results was not good and getting worst and eventually monk got his way with the sack and a pay off of £3m.......So at the end of the day blame the right people and not someone who loved and would work his socks off for the club and stood up for his players....At the end of the day Jenkins and the board have made one hell of a cock-up in more ways than one and the season we have had shows that without any shadow of doubt....Monk was not at fault......

 

So why were the team performing like they'd had a gutsful of Monk? We went from hammering Utd and Chelsea off the park, to being unable to string a pass together. A blistering dip in form which began the moment Dyer got kicked out of the club.

 

Wait until Ash brings out his autobiography may shed new light on the whole Dyer, Monk saga. You may be surprised to find out exactly who went in to see jenkins and who didnt!! A few friendships ended that day

 

The player revolt i was referring to was during the ML saga btw

 

I If you call masterminding the saving of our 2013 - 2014, when he took over for Laudrup , averaging less than a point a game for the first 10 Premier games , taking us from 10 teams in the relegation battle when he took over to five teams with four games to play , against lesser teams , with a rested and uninjured team , knocking us out of both Cup competitions in the fewest games possible , your as fuking deluded as Monk saying he " Saved " us .
Winning 3 of our last 4 games with an on form Bony , playing meaningless games for the opponents we were facing is what saved us ....period .... that and the 18th place team finishing with 33 points .

 

Fact is mate as much as you don't like it he did save us and must take the credit for it as will Guidolin if we survive this year. for me neither of them are someone I want in charge of my club as I believe there are much better options out there. Both however will have done their job in keeping us up (if Guidolin does)

 

Jenkin's and Monk almost got us relegated , if Laudrup was left in charge of his team , that finally got healthy , got through a hectic shedule of difficult teams we would have had more points come seasons end and done better in the Cups IMO .
I could have managed us to more points after the sacking of Laudrup .
Monk saved us sh:t IMO ,Almost took us down except for Bony's fine play the last four games and facing sh:tteams our last four games that didn't care about the games . Jenkin's sacked Laudrup at what he thought was the perfect time so he could prop a manager up that he could control and it almost backfired on him whe Monk averaged less than a point a game for Monks first 10 games ....Bony , facing sh:t teams our last 4 games and luck is what saved us .

 

Roof - you may well be correct, but we will never know because the change in Manager was made.

However, even if we had lost those last 4 games (rather than win 3 and lose 1), we were still safe - our final goal difference was zero, whilst Norwich has a goal difference of minus 34.

The fact is, rightly or wrongly, Jinx made a call. The call was made with the objective of staying in the PL. Mission accomplished.

Would Laudrup have kept us up? - possibly, even probably.

But under Laudrup, would we have beaten Cardiff at home?

Away at Cardiff we were listless and showed little or no passion - in a derby for f***s sake. The Saturday before his sacking, we were s**t against West Ham who played much of the game with only 10 men.

The Saturday after Laudrup's departure, the team was up for the Cardiff match and got the result that was needed. I honestly doubt that we would have been as good and as committed that day if Laudrup had been in charge.

However, we will never know - only my honest opinion

 

The five games Monk won
Newcastle 10th
Sunderland 14th
Villa 15th
Norwich 18th
Cardiff 20 th
No exactly Titans Monk was facing , with a healthy team and an eased timeline schedule , after Laudrup faced 38 games in three competitions , three competitions we were still in when the axe fell , with injuries and lots of games in short periods of time...... I hate to bring up rocket surgery Taff , but it doesn't take much imagination to figure Laudrup was ready to roll with his suddenly uninjured team , easier teams and a more normal timeline between games . Jenkin's and monk sailed close to the edge and got lucky with their easy run ...just my opinion .
Nobody knows better than me that we probably didn't need a point our last 4 games , I put up an article saying we could already be safe before those 4 games were played and I was right .
Part of what saved us was the amount of poor teams there were , us being not as poor as some at that point under Monk

 

I assume you know something then? No need to spill the details, we don't want to ruin Ash book

 

Roof, Monk did save us from relegation. As for getting us knocked out of both cups, they were against Everton AWAY and a double header against NAPOLI where we played them off the park twice.

 

Bony couldn't get in ML team. He kept picking a crooked Michu
Monk brought out the best in Bony, that cannot be disputed.

 

Cards on the table. Do you really think we'd have beated Everton away in the FA Cup and knocked out a European giant in Napoli in the EL under Laudrup?

 

Monk and Jenkin's almost got us relegated valley , if he was just a bit worse than he was at the time , and other teams weren't so poor , we would have been relegated ... Monk was taking up space on the bench really , and every time his lips moved it was Jenkin's. Doing the talking .