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Mass murder in Brussels today

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  1. User deleted as requested

    User deleted as requested Well-Known Member

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    The latest sorry example of why multi culturalism has abjectly failed, and that it was lunacy to allow the so called free movement of people across European borders. Belgium clearly has no idea who is in their country to do them ill, and is unable to keep track of those that are. You can sadly almost guarantee that Germany will be next, over 1m "Syrians" imported in the space of six months !

    The liberal Left get to feel better about themselves that fit and able bodied men are able to cross continents and multiple borders pretending to be refugees, when in reality many of them want to export their poisonous, backward looking 19th century ideology to the West.

    Sadly there will be many more of these attacks. The only sensible and logical starting point for preventing them must be for sovereign states to go back to controlling their own borders, or are those two foul letters the "EU" really a price that is worth paying in other innocent people's blood?

    Complete madness, made all the more tragic by being so obviously preventable.
     
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    Sat In Greenwich Well-Known Member

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    i dont agree with this.

    wouldnt it be more controlling (nazi'esque) if people were controlled to the extent that they were told where they had to live.

    it only takes a few people to create chaos. if all immigrants had that same attitude we'd all be dead by now.
     
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    At the moment it is a free-for-all under EU rules. Terrorists are being trained in Syria and Iraq, and have little difficulty in crossing multiple open borders to reach Western Europe. The argument that all immigration is good and the vast majority of migrants are well meaning is also bonkers.
     
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  4. ForestHillBilly

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    In practice leaving the EU wouldn't give us the control of our borders we'd like, especially in the future when climate change kicks in.
     
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    You just go back to checking the identity of each person wanting to come in - those who are not indigenous should be declined unless they have a valid reason.
     
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  6. ForestHillBilly

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    The situation is that European citizens are going to join Daesh and fight in Syria, and the indigenous Syrians are driven out, and come over to Europe. Genuinely mad.
     
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    This isn't anything to do with CARD is it?
     
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    The EU and CARD are equally ineffective organisations.
     
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  9. Franco5

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    I'm all for exiting the EU. However UKBF simply would not cope if we did. They are currently operating on bare bones and barely treading water...!!

    I could go on, but take it from someone who knows... this government is not interested in securing the UK's border... why...? It's too expensive...!!

    Absolutely sickening...!!
     
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    What's more annoying is those asking for fans to refrain from saying anything negative towards RD and KM "out of respect".

    Have the apologists really sunk that low. Two very different things. Had any of our Belgium connections been involved then ok. But pitting them together is just low.
     
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    I'm still on the fence Brexit wise but think absolutism from either side is misplaced - both in economic impact and especially in security impact. We are not part of Shengen and have the English Channel and North Sea. Our borders are relatively secure until these 'refugees' get their German passports - that is a long way away but perhaps a very valid concern. What I do know is hundreds of British passport holding Muslims have gone out to ISIS and scandalously we have let some of them back in and these are the bastards that are going to perpetrate the sadly inevitable next outrage here. That is nothing to do with the EU....
     
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    having criticised absolutist sentiments I should rephrase - 'these re the bastards that are most likely to perpetrate..'
     
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    I'm only leaning to Brexit, as this is a once in a generation type of vote.

    If the UK can do it on their own, and do it better, then now is the time to prove our worth!
     
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    'We are not part of Shengen and have the English Channel and North Sea. Our borders are relatively secure'

    Wow... if only that were the case OPR.
     
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    Relatively - you ain't driving in with a boot full of AK 47s in the same way you can get from Berlin to Paris in a similar manner to which the average Championship striker can get through our back 4. And if our borders were that porous you wouldn't have thousands bottle necked in Calais. Of course once in our asylum system is a joke all I'm saying is I believe being an island is a very significant defence..
     
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    The response from the liberal West after these outrages is pitiful and predictable.

    Chalk drawings on the pavements of Brussels "to show support"

    The hashtag "Je Suis Brussels" #cringe

    It is almost as if the bien peasant liberal Left does not want to acknowledge the root causes.

    Free movement of people = allow very bad people you know nothing about into your country <ok>
     
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    All this nonsense about it being nothing to do with Islam. I'm pretty sure securing eternal paradise via martyrdom is exclusive to Islam. Civilised western life and Islam is just not compatible.
     
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    I've never studied Islam, so don't know if this is part of the religion. I suspect it's being twisted to suit the view of the fanatics. . It reminds me of the Morse episode at the end where the great man says that he wishes he believed in heaven and hell. The bombers would have had a nasty shock by now.
     
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    They are far better off keeping all that stuff to themselves and their dim witted, sheep like followers. If they can't they should stay away. We never had this problem 40 years ago, funny that.
     
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    It's the brainwashing that I can't get my head around. It's like "Invasion of the Body-snatchers", where people appear normal when in fact they've been taken over by aliens. For 3 15-year-old Hackney schoolgirls to be persuaded online to up sticks and go to the hell-hole of Syria never to see their families again- FFS what's going on? Radicalisation isn't a strong enough word.
     
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