1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Match Day Thread Swansea v. Aston Villa

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Taffvalerowdy, Mar 13, 2016.

  1. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    8,916
    Likes Received:
    8,025
    For me the changes gave us the wins and I am sure he didn't make those.
     
    #281
  2. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    10,286
    Likes Received:
    4,272
    I think the lost in translation thing must be right. He can't mean that Shirley.

    We played better when Guidolin was laid up. Sad but true.
     
    #282
  3. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2015
    Messages:
    10,098
    Likes Received:
    7,293
    The subs might have been talked about prior to the game for different situation .
    Guido was the manager at the time , made the starting line ups , trying to sway credit is kinda ....well , grasping
     
    #283
  4. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    10,286
    Likes Received:
    4,272
    Yes I'm sure he was on the line from his bed. <laugh>

    Taking credit away from Curtis is ...well, laughable. Yes, I can see it now..."Now, Curt make sure in the 80th minute you do this...." <laugh>

    You are essentially saying that our better performances when Curtis is in charge is coincidence. I think not. We'll creep over the line but I'll be so worried if he's here come August.
     
    #284
  5. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2015
    Messages:
    10,098
    Likes Received:
    7,293
    I'm sure scenarios could have been discussed , might be difficult for you to grasp .
    From two points from relegation to 11 points from relegation under Curtis and Guido while being thrown into the deep end by Huw and the board and all that can be discussed by some is their unhappiness with the manager (s) .
    I don't need to have a season ticket to have a laugh at some that do .
     
    #285
  6. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    10,286
    Likes Received:
    4,272
    You're right. It's difficult for me to grasp. <laugh>
     
    #286
    daimungeezer likes this.
  7. Taffvalerowdy

    Taffvalerowdy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    137,759
    Likes Received:
    257,874
    Yep - there have been times when I thought that Francesco had us in a pickle, only for Curt to use the subs to sort it out..... <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
    #287
  8. Taffvalerowdy

    Taffvalerowdy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    137,759
    Likes Received:
    257,874
    #288
  9. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2012
    Messages:
    30,383
    Likes Received:
    13,499
    #289
    daimungeezer and Taffvalerowdy like this.
  10. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2015
    Messages:
    10,098
    Likes Received:
    7,293
    Didn't say Curtis didn't make the changes Taff , only that scenarios for changes might have been discussed the same time Curtis was told who to start . We know who was responsible for the starting line up , we don't really know if Curtis was under any instructions for " What if " subs .Unless you , Aussie and Valley get special knowledge that comes with your tickets ...lol ....although Curtis changed formation , it doesn't say anything was or wasn't discussed about possible subs
     
    #290

  11. Taffvalerowdy

    Taffvalerowdy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    137,759
    Likes Received:
    257,874
    Roof, with respect, what part of

    "Don't tell (Guodolin) we did that," Curtis joked

    don't you understand?
     
    #291
    DragonPhilljack likes this.
  12. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2012
    Messages:
    30,383
    Likes Received:
    13,499
    Roof, Curtis has ALREADY said that Guido picked the team but once the games started, Curtis had full control over tactics, subs etc.
     
    #292
  13. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2015
    Messages:
    10,098
    Likes Received:
    7,293
    Tactics and subs are 2 different things , see , I can split hairs too.
    You me and everyone else don't know if subs were discussed or not .
    The lengths everyone goes to give as little credit to our manager is a bit worrying for me .
    When Naughton came on yesterday everyone was sh:tting all over Guido before play started .
    I'm pretty sure Curtis was given the reigns to make whatever changes he wanted , Curtis and Guido seem to have a good connection imo , but nothing's for sure
     
    #293
  14. Taffvalerowdy

    Taffvalerowdy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    137,759
    Likes Received:
    257,874
    Roof - when in a hole stop digging..... <cheers>

    http://www.eurosport.co.uk/football...o-guidolin-in-hospital_sto5292379/story.shtml
     
    #294
  15. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2015
    Messages:
    10,098
    Likes Received:
    7,293
    Off course your right Taff , Curtis is totally responsible for everything . Why we got Guido in is beyond me .. He's useless ....can't make a proper line up , Gets sick all the time , has to put others in charge when he's in the hospital ..... If he gets any more points for us , I think we should axe him .Then we can put Curtis back in charge so the " Curtis is Sh:t " group can take over ......then Curtis can get axed after he starts getting us to many points .
    Then we can get Rodgers in in the summer , after he left us out to dry when we , suppositily , needed him after Monk got unjustifiably axed .
     
    #295
  16. Taffvalerowdy

    Taffvalerowdy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    137,759
    Likes Received:
    257,874
    Roof - no need for petulance<cheers>

    Guido picked the team but Curt had power to change things. This he did to great effect against Arsenal and Norwich.

    Curt is not Manager material but he knows the. PL better than Guido
     
    #296
  17. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2015
    Messages:
    10,098
    Likes Received:
    7,293
    Anybody who knows anything about the Swans would have brought Siggy on sometime , not rocket surgery Taff .
    Bringing Fulton on at 70 minutes and Rangel on at 90 minutes were also critical ...lol. Sorry .
    The game against Arsenal was turned on its ear by Routledges beautiful taken goal ... Period Imo .
    Took the wind out of there sails .
    That and someone else hitting our woodwork for a change instead of us hitting someone else's ( see law of average ) .Sorry by the way Taff ..cheers P.S I'm scared to look up what petulance means but I'll assume it's not good
     
    #297
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2016
    Taffvalerowdy likes this.
  18. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    10,286
    Likes Received:
    4,272
    I actually think it's not brain science. <laugh> Now where's my popcorn....
     
    #298
    seabreeze likes this.
  19. Taffvalerowdy

    Taffvalerowdy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    137,759
    Likes Received:
    257,874
    Roof - initially you were arguing that all the changes/substitutions had been discussed in advance. Now it has been demonstrated that Curt had power to change things, you have adjusted your arguments to saying
    "Anybody who knows anything about the Swans would have brought Siggy on sometime , not rocket surgery"

    Unfortunately, you have omitted to include that Curt adjusted the formation and set-up after Campbell scored for Arsenal - but, hey, that's not rocket science either......
     
    #299
    DragonPhilljack likes this.
  20. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2015
    Messages:
    10,098
    Likes Received:
    7,293
    I only said I didn't know if subs were discussed Taff , and remember , it was Guido's decision to give Curtis the power of change .. A good decision at that .
     
    #300

Share This Page