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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Teessidemackem, Mar 15, 2016.

  1. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    You said the club relieved her of her duties ..... You were wrong ....simple
     
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  2. John Cardew

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    Absolutely pathetic. Completely irrelevant and it shows something about your character that, in the midst of a discussion about child abuse, you resort to point scoring over something that matters not one jot. Muted.
     
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  3. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    If it doesn't matter , why lie about it ?
     
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  4. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    I'll wait a year before I believe anything about this case , a case that should have everything to do about Johnson but most want to hang it on people without guilt really ... That's what's pathetic .
    Johnson deserves everything he gets , Byrne didn't deserve the " Lawyers and Minefields " she had to walk through .
     
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  5. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    <laugh><laugh>.
     
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  6. Brian Storm

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    Sounds like he wanted out of the country. I wondered why a player would go for mutual consent when he's on the best contract he'll ever have. Well done on the club for taking the opportunity to get shot first chance. He was lazy **** and by the sounds a real piece of work. If only it was an option with AJ that way we wouldn't be a player short in a relegation battle. Not being able to replace AJ is a real problem. Ta Maggie.
     
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  7. Blunham Mackem

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    Coming in half way through. I thought she was sacked.
     
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  8. John Cardew

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    She did resign mate, I was incorrect. I'd thought she was sacked as skysports said she would have been sacked had she not resigned.

    The point being made was that she lost her job due to her actions, shame a serious discussion descended into point-scoring farce. Especially given the, you would have hoped, neutrality of a Swansea fan. Can't even blame it on it being derby week <laugh>
     
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  9. seabreeze

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    Isn't that the problem though , what people think and what is actually true .
    Byrne dismissing Johnson and re instating him as soon as she held talks with the players association lawyers says lots to me .
    Things will come out in time .
    As Byrne was about to make decisions after that players association meeting , she made it a point of it only being her to fall on the sword, imo , If she was incorrect about those decisions nobody was going to fall with her cause she would be the only one who , convienently , knew .
     
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  10. Brian Storm

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    Think you lot are splitting hairs. It was clearly a forced resignation imo so in reality it's a bit of both. A sacking with a resignation settlement if you will.
     
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  11. Blunham Mackem

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    I wasn't splitting hairs. I was wrong. On a technicality!

    She should've been sacked though. It was the club's chance to make a statement to say she ****ed up. Her and her alone. And she being a criminal lawyer, why shouldn't she take the full force of the fallout? No one was better placed, professionally, to make the decisions she made!

    Now, there'll probably be some further fall out in the coming months. And others may bite the bullet. And that in my opinion would be wrong.
     
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  12. Jack TheLad

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    She 'resigned' to save face.

    What little bit of 'face' she had left.

    "Maggie, you have the chance to resign with a payoff, or we'll publically sack you without payoff. Also, on your way out sign that confidentiality agreement so that none of us take any of the wrap for it. Cheers."
     
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  13. Brian Storm

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    She should take fall because she was the club's CEO, she ran the club, she chose to sit on information, sounds like she had to go. Leaving us without a replacement could relegate us, it was a reckless risk both in morally and for footballing reasons. I don't buy she knew the extent of his perversions though. As we would have bought a replacement or not let Buckley or Gomez leave in Jan.
     
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  14. Blunham Mackem

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    Neither do I Bri.

    With regard to her though, I base my admittedly ill-informed judgement of her professionality, as a criminal lawyer upon the published announcements of the club. Of someone who by profession, should have been aware of the risks of that individual situation, and given her secondary employment, as a CEO of a major company, should have had signs, blue lights, klaxons, alarm bells, whatever, alerting her to the fact that this could have a massively adverse reaction upon the club.

    The fact that AJ scored goals and probably contributed not only to us staying up last season, but also probably kept us in the fight this season? There's no pride in that.

    I think she made a judgement call, as we all do in our work from time to time.

    And this one backfired. Spectacularly.

    Oh, the wonderful benefits of hindsight.
     
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  15. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    But the thread isnt about child abus is it?

    ****ing stinking hippy pansie.
     
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  16. Makemstine Roger

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    she was a Newcastle skank
     
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  17. red&white wanderer

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    Pull on let's hope true -AP is now in a "glass house - no time to throw stones" & the fat ladies about to start screaming <nahnah> <magic> -<sorry>
     
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  18. red&white wanderer

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    JC - honest <doh> as the club said AJ lied to everyone - good faith was taken by the fans in the clubs stance ( MB was the problem here imo) but who said they were happy - only the sad & cynical - I certainly did not cheer him and am sure many others felt very uneasy.
    But move on - the real victim is the girl & her family & friends imo.
     
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  19. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan
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    Eh :huh:
     
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  20. red&white wanderer

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    Humerous - pull on (very good) see edited message re Palace being a glass house ?? - not throwing stones .......
     
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