WHO WILL BE THE NEW MANAGER?

Climates no good for Guidolin too damp.Fukd his chest up now.
Just thinking like.

 

I think he did good when he was here Nev. Took us into the prem where we had a decent first season with him. He was then offered a job he couldn't refuse and gave us £15m for Joe. He did take the back-room staff with him, a la Martinez, which still grinds, but on the whole we were successful with him in charge.

My personal view is If Guidolin keeps us up then give him his reigns, keep him. But that would come with a cost being the style of football we'd play, Italian style, block defense, narrow midfield, keep the point first go for the win second.

At Udenese his mentality was certainly so, defend the point his team had when they stepped on the pitch and from a strong base probe for weaknesses and goals. He did play with a wide midfield but mainly attacked through the middle. Similar to how he has adapted our play now. He likes playing 3 CB's flooding a six man midfield. I wonder how we'd react to his pragmatic style of football, could we cope? I certainly would if the results were in our favor.

One things for sure though, there's never a dull moment being a Jack

 

Unless you are watching a Guidolin side on the pitch. Seriously I just don't think that style works in the PL as in Italy most sides defend and don't go after teams, different here where teams will most of the time go for a win I wouldn't be happy watching this sh1te again next year.

 

Frank De Boer said he would be interested but only if we stayed up and you can't blame him for that.

 

I don't know TLF, just the way I am I suppose, I'm in the camp results first and I'd take points over style any day of the week, after all the gold is only found in positive results, playing well and being unlucky earns you nothing but pity.

I don't think we play ugly under Guidolin, no more so than under Monk anyway, but I think he is trying to stiffen our defense for a patient midfield to build on. Right now though imo, I think Guidolin is trying to play to our strengths to get the most out of our players.

We have quality in our squad but in honesty I feel we are a team made up of hard working professionals aka 'grinders' exemplified by the likes of Williams, Siggy, Cork, Leon, Taylor, Rangel, Ki used to be one, and I'd like to include Fer and Paloschi in this group too. All work hard leaving little on the pitch. Some get bagged by us because they lack speed or skill to be better players but they are what they are and they all do a job. We'd be relegated without them because we don't have enough extra factor players who win games week in week out with their skill and treachery in front of goal.

Our extra factor players imo include Routledge, Siggy again, Ayew when he wants to, Barrow, Monterro of old but that's it. Matching both groups up the only player with a boot in both camps is Siggy. Ayew should be there but he's not, he floats too mush through games for my liking.

With the personnel we have we must play a style caters to the level players we have in the team which grinds out results. Lately we've been getting the results, some lucky, some ugly but who cares, the points are on the board and that's the only thing that counts.

 

Stumpy, I have just said on another thread I would rather go down (extreme I know) than watch another full season of the garbage we are served up at the moment, it is the worst football I have seen since we have been at The Liberty and in all fairness it isn't only Guidolin who is a culprit. I pay an awful lot of money to watch and just sometimes I would like to be entertained. The players you named as workman like, are they any worse or less gifted than the players we had under Rodgers and Laudrup and they both managed to serve us up results and entertainment. I can not go on watching us sneaking a goal and then putting another centre half on and hanging on.

Short of a striker surely we have one of the strongest squads we have ever had and we are far more capable of playing better stuff than we are now. I want to go and watch us just have a go like we have in the past, we have moved so far away from what Martinez started it is sad. I don't want to watch a Stoke under Pulis or a Sunderland, I want to watch football the way it should be played. I believe we have the players to do it, but a coach who doesn't.

 

Sums it up for me. The only thing in Guidolin's favour at the moment is he hasn't been here that long and could be employing a safety first approach. But I doubt it, I just don't think he has an attacking philosophy.

 

I think this season is unique in so many ways and has skewed everything for us, firstly we had in Monk this season a Rookie who got too big for his boots, and that was evident from his player selection, his lack of squad rotation, and his poor man management skills. that set us on the downward slide, clearly the record finish last season went to his head.

Add to that other issues of unrest in the squad, with Shelvey/Siggy, Britton being hung out to dry, Dyer being sent out to Leicester, Huw Jenkins and the board losing focus, then it's no wonder we lost our 'Swansea way' on the field of play, but for me one of the main issues is our collapse of an effective front line, and for all of his mouthing while sitting on the bench as Bony's understudy, Go-miss has been a mitigating disaster as a striker, and one of the worst transfers for return of capital spent per contract, and can it be any wonder why we are where we are, and why we are playing catch up with points on the table.

With all this as a backdrop to this season, not to mention the additional revenues for next season that have focused so many clubs this season, and 2 of the three clubs that came up doing reasonable well has all conspired to hit us at a bad time, so I'm happy to see Franco keep us up whichever way he deems necessary, and I'm sure he will, but there will without doubt be one of the biggest shake ups at our club this summer in over 10 years of so much positive football, Huw Jenkins has already hinted at this and rightly so.

It's been a huge lesson this season for us, and I'm sure we will learn from it, and I'm also sure we will get back to attractive possession based offensive football which has served us well for so long, whoever is manager..............

 

I appreciate your points TLF and I'd love us to play swashbuckling football but we don't have the players to that so, we play possession. We certainly played good football under Rodgers, with Dyer, Sinclair then Routledge hugging the touchline backed up by Davies and Rangel.

Our style changed a lot under Laudrup who narrowed us up playing a diamond with wide midfielders instead of wingers. This only works if you can score though and luckily we had a goal machine at 10 to make it work. If Michu failed to score we had no plan B.

Under both managers we whined and complained bitterly that we were a one half team, weak and easily dispossessed when pressed in the second half of games. On occassion we were scintillating in the first half nit more often than not we were made to look weak and nervous in the second.

Teams, except Arsenal, realized all they had to beat us was to press, bump and tackle then press some more. Teams squeezed the life out of our midfield in the second half of games and our midfield didn't like the close attention of a snapping opposition, DeGusman and Hernandez particularly. We stuttered to the end of so many games clinging on to a result and often losing it.

I have never bought into the Swansealona myth, it never happened imo. What I recall were many exciting moments balanced by an equal, at least, number of disappointments as the team folded, sometimes capitulated, under pressure, but I agree it was entertaining.

Do you think Man City would loan Bony back to us?

 

Mate I am not talking swashbuckling football, I am not on about attack, attack attack. What I am on about is lets at least try and win a game rather than settling for a point at home, We were outplayed by WBA, a piss poor Palace all at home when we just set back and had no idea going forward. We still have the players who can do a bit of damage going forward, unfortunately they don't fit into the borefest that is Guidolin. I get the situation we are in may be why he is doing it, but with his Italian background and the way football is played in Serie A then I cant help but think that the style we are playing is the norm for him rather than to suit our current situation.

Just me mate, cant stand to watch the garbage served up and the thought of that again next year doesn't exactly excite me. But hey, lets wait and see what happens.

 

Never know TLF, who we sign in the summer will make all the difference I think. Agree with you though, I'd prefer us not to morph into a Swanseaventus but I doubt that will happen though because our sickly manager will not be here in the summer. Seems like he's spent more time on his back than he has on the training field, tff Curtis.

 

Stop whinging over Franco the Magnificent trunds!...............

 

If he's magnificent what do we call Curtis?

 

Alan

 

" The Stick That Stirs The Drink " He's clearly a link between manager , chairman and players .Respected by all , makes everyone comfortable together . The most important Swansea official of this season
as he steadied the ship in our roughest of seas .
I predict Guido goes on to be our longest serving top flight manager and Curtis is beside him the whole way .

 

As I posted earlier in this thread I think that our climate is no good for FG,too damp.At 60 years of age and not used to it he has picked up this chest infection.
I maybe way off the mark.
I wish him a speedy recovery.

 

I wondering if biking , in a harsher environment , has played a part in his health troubles since moving to Swansea .

 

Well done to Dave Adams , leaving to go back to academy .I'm sure his contribution won't go unnoticed .
Securing catagory one status will be his new goal , no doubt he will help achieve it .

 

I know it`s the Sun, but there could be some truth in it.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...d-goodbye-to-Swanseas-Francesco-Guidolin.html

 

Swanee, lets hope that report is right.