Off Topic Political Debate

They have fixed elections in nearly all other European countries but it doesn't stop an election between those dates if a majority is lost or if a government can no longer be formed.

 

Which is not the case in the UK, so 2020 it is.

 

One of the first things Corbyn said when he was elected is that Labour won't use dirty tactics from now on, look at PMQs, Porky Dave throws insults at him throughout and he remains composed and polite.

How politics should be done

Lynton Crosby's Dead Cat techniques are strictly for the right wing now, showing the public what the Nasty Party are all about

 

But Labour seem to have learnt the lesson of keeping their dirty laundry in the laundry basket - it has taken a few years though!

 

Not for long, we have the trident battle looming and May's elections, should be fun.

 

I'll have a go. In Whitehall the negotiators are trained to work within an EU contexct so they put forward UK views which are then represented by the Commission. In a post Brexit world they would then be required to negotiate bilaterally.
Are they qualified to do it? Maybe so but I think it's justifiable to question that. My guess is that we would see an army of trained negotiators come in from private industry and other countries to do this for us if it is considered that we don't have the current skills and resources.

 

Very interesting and revealing comment from Iceland' prime minister. Mr Gunnlaugsson, he warned larger member states like the UK wield 'diminishing power' in institutions still under the sway of the Franco-German alliance. He also said 'when it comes to the big stuff the decisions are made by two, and increasingly one country'

"Others are called to meetings to approve of what has been decided, if not in the afternoon then during the middle of the night. This seems to have become the standard way of doing things in Brussels' he said.

He also confirmed he would like a free trade deal with the UK, through the EEA or independently.

Those people who think that there is any chance of reforming the EU from within are completely mistaken. This guy is in the middle so is perfectly placed to give an honest account of what really happens.

 

He's not really in the middle though is he? The UK coming out will be a massive boost for the anti EU lobby in Iceland.

And, on his main point, if Member Sttes do not agree with what is being tabled they can vote against it.

 

Thanks - that makes some sense then.

 

Why is there are Franco-German alliance ? Primarily because Britain has been watching from the sidelines for so long without really taking its membership of this club seriously.

 

Rare as Halley's Comet but it does happen

 

The only hope you have is that he is telling a pack of lies. If not you should be very concerned.

 

I wouldn't call it a pack of lies but there is a big element of misrepresentation here imho. The Commission regulalrly hold bilaterals with individual Members to see what they want. It does not mean that is what they actually come away with.

 

I'm sure there are many procedures in place but he has outlined exactly what happens in practice. I can understand your reluctance to accept the reality of the situation, it makes the 'remain' position extremely dangerous.

 

It really is not the reality.

 

With respect, I would rather take the word of a european national leader actually involved in negotiations than somebody in your lowly position.

 

With respect, you have no idea what my position is.

 

He doesn't deserve any respect....

 

Are you Peter Mandelson in disguise?

 

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