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Benitez to be appointed!!!

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by master-simpson, Mar 9, 2016.

  1. JustMeMan

    JustMeMan Well-Known Member

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    You can still get 4/9 from ladbrokes so nowts sure yet.
     
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  2. Nacho

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    When there's a fire you need a firefighter. A thinker like Remi Garde might be a fine manager in different circumstances but he's having no impact whatsoever at Villa.

    The sorts of manager you're thinking of have little to no experience of turning round a struggling team. If you look at someone like Pearson then he has the experience but it's not like only the top managers know how to attack, if Pearson or whoever thinks that's best that's what he'll have them do.

    It's always a gamble no matter who comes in but getting a fighter type manager when you're right in the **** is common sense and is a safer bet.
     
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  3. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    You're looking at it far too simplistically, you have to bring in the manager who will get the best out of your team. When teams are in trouble, it's usually because they're either not good enough of they've given up hope on their manager and lost confidence on the pitch. Bringing in Sam Allardyce for Newcastle at this stage would be suicidal, but you brought him in much earlier because he had the time to turn it around, he'd never have made the impact he needed to in 10 games.

    Look at your last few appointments to 'save the day', not one firefighter, Di Canio, Poyet, Advocaat... all attack minded technical coaches with passion and plenty of energy to breathe into a squad. None of them experienced in a relegation scrap. That's what Newcastle need right now, a manager to get them fired up and winning games, not shutting up shop and nicking points here and there.
     
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  4. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Villa are absolutely terrible and completely hopeless by the way, there's a huge difference in quality to what Villa have compared to every other team in this league.
     
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  5. Nacho

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    I wouldn't have said Allardyce would have been a choice for them either, we needed him to stop us getting hammered on the reg but that's not really their problem.

    Do you think Benitez is the type of manager to get the adrenalin pumping? I don't see it. He would bring a lot of grand reputation with him though which would give them a lift, they are a bunch of peacocks and would respond well to it.

    I think you might be overestimating how good Newcastle are. They are a huge and well supported club but their squad isn't very good. Not much better than Villa's.
     
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  6. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Fortunately I have the benefit of being a neutral mate, I can see the players Newcastle have objectively and they're far superior in most departments to Villa, aside from maybe LB.

    If you'd do me the service of reading my posts, I've said the Benitez appt could be a masterstroke or a disasterstroke, I'm not saying he'll guarantee to get the adrenaline pumping but somebody like Pearson in my opinion would be like throwing a wet cloth on a burning car, absolutely pointless.

    Time will tell.
     
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  7. Billy Death

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    I really couldn't give a ****.
     
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  8. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Would you shag him if he had a blonde wig on though?
     
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  9. Billy Death

    Billy Death Well-Known Member

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    No his nose is too big.
     
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  10. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    <laugh> That's the reason.
     
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  11. QWOP

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    <laugh> you really are a legend!
     
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  12. Nacho

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    Their defence has been piss poor all season, you seem to be suggesting that they go all out attack but it could be a disaster if they did. It's not like Mitrovic or Perez have been scoring either. I really don't think their squad is as good as you do and it's not necessarily bias.

    It seems like what it comes down to is do they take a big risk with big rewards or a smaller risk with smaller rewards. It could go either way, god knows.
     
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  13. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Why do you keep telling me what I've already said as if I'm unaware of these things?

    I'm not suggesting they go all out attack, I'm suggesting they're a better attacking team than they are defensively and bringing in a ****ing defensively minded ****house would be suicidal.
     
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  14. crumble bungle

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    Don't know on this one, sure thing is they need a new manager and when a new manager comes in there is usually an upturn in fortunes.
    Rafa hasn't managed teams at the bottom that i am aware of and usually has top quality players at his disposal. I'm not saying there aren't any good players at noocastle but not the level of what he has managed before. He will have to roll the dice with the players he has.
    Sam struggled with the players that he inherited and it wasn't until the transfer window opened and he got his players in that we "turned the corner" so to speak.
    Either way it will be interesting to see what happens up the road, it maybe that none of the recent managers can see the problems due to the smog on the Tyne.
    Keep McClaren for me all day long and bring in Sheeera as his assistant.
     
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  15. crumble bungle

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    just goes to show how bad they are as an attacking team when they have scored fewer goals than most in the premiership.
     
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  16. Nacho

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    Sounds like you're advocating all out attack to me seeing as you're saying to forget about the defence and focus on attack. They might be better off tightening up at the back, which doesn't mean they would have to try to win every game 1-0 by the way.

    It's not only the big name managers who know how to let their teams attack.
     
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  17. Yorkie

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    Good tactician, bad man manager according to my alloy thieving boss.
     
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  18. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    1 less than Watford who've had pundits creaming over them for an entire season. It's the style, the players they have, they've got more goals in them, Cisse has been out for months, McClaren has been their manager all season, many factors mate, LVG had us scoring 0 or 1 goal per game for what seemed like forever, then we'll turn up and bang Arsenal around Old Trafford with our kids out... goals are not a true reflection on quality all the time.
     
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  19. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Where did I say forget about the defense? Where? You can't find it because I never said that, let's carry this on when you're prepared to look at what I actually said and not what you want me to have said.
     
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  20. Nacho

    Nacho Well-Known Member

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    You said that bringing in a defensively minded manager would be a terrible move and that they should focus on attack instead.
     
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