Is 4-3-3 the new 4-4-2.

It was certainly based upon Chapman's ideas. However I was really thinking about the W shaped forward line. By the time that I was playing and watching football (late 50s) the backline had become flatter and the left and right halves had moved closer to the centre of the pitch. Even as late as 1965 Liverpool won their first FA Cup with 5 forwards.

 

Cym was an old man long before Liverpool adopted this system

 

If he can remeber playing with 5 forwards then he has to be at least as old as me - and nobody feels as old as me!

 

I hear you dave Cym's not really that old, but he just seems it

 

I'm not ****ing old

 

Never mind Son, one day (with a bit of luck) you will be

 

What the **** are you talking about, he's a relic

 

Compared to Piskie, cym's as young and sprightly as the spring lamb he is currently uphill chocolate mining...

 

Please keep your posts "on topic".This is meant to be a thread about footballing formations,not about member's ages or about people's nocturnal activities in fields with our beautiful wooly four legged friends

 

Gooner

 

When Chapman introduced the W M it was seen as a retrogade step which would make football more defensive as it saw the introduction of the "stopper centre half"Chapman was once quoted as saying that at the start of a football match you have 0 points and if you didn't concede a goal you would gain at least one point.This was obviously in the days of two points for a win

 

KPR

re Barcelona - the difference with them is they do not play a centre forward at all. In fact Villa typically stays wide left (as Henry did before him) and Pedro and Messi interchange between being central and being on the right of the front 3.

It is this fluidity in their front 3 that causes defences the problems more so than the formation itself. Coupled with the fact that they really play 4-1-2-3 as Busquets rarely gets ahead of the ball and Xavi & Iniesta play behind the front 3 predominately although have licence to interchange with Messi when he drops deep to pick up the ball and run at defences.

 

We should play
------------sznkeznky



----------------------Ramsey
Walcott--Nasri----Cesc---Wilshere---Gervinho--Arshavin--RVP
--------------Bendy--Chamakh

 

I quite like the 4-2-3-1

 

You're normally first on those subjects and I would have thought you'd have loved the attention

With regards to this fred, it's on the Chelsea board for some reason and I contributed earlier.

 

It would appear you are attention seeking yet again

 

Keep on topic you old git

 

I've never been a fan of Topic's,i've always prefered Snickers

 

I'm the OP and I put it on the Chelsea board as they are users of a 4-3-3 formation and have been successful using it.