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Swans rise 'should inspire Cardiff' - Robert Earnshaw

Discussion in 'Cardiff City' started by up-the-jacks, Jul 26, 2011.

  1. SussexBlueBird

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    Aussie ****wit, you are quite right about the grammar, about the only thing you ever get right so congratulations on that, Cardiff will always be superior to little swansea, get used to it arsehole.
    You will not sign a top scorer this year will you, in fact YOU'RE struggling to sign anyone
     
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  2. up-the-jacks

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    Rome was not built in a day!

    A team for Surviving the PREMIER LEAGUE drop wont be either.
     
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  3. BluefromBridgend

    BluefromBridgend Well-Known Member

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    Up the Jackass

    You are really an annoying little turd aren't you. Then again from Carmarthenshire so plenty of turds to chose from. With apologies to Benni and Milford.

    I suppose we will have to put up with you the whole of the school holidays. Ah well we could use a pet to train for the next 6 weeks as Ladyboi no longer graces us with his presence. We can treat you as a project and have a bit of fun along the way. Do your best sunshine so we can all have a laugh. <ok>
     
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  4. Master Betty

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    BluefromBridgend Well-Known Member

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    Could be Betty.

    Same level of illiteracy. In fact he/she might have moved there "in his/her mind", while still infesting Townhill. Or you might have hit on it, cyber stalking Benni again. I wouldn't put it past him/her.
     
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  6. up-the-jacks

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    BFB what project is that?

    as we know your as bent as a butchers hook. i shall not take part in any project from you.
     
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    You have to be there to leave

    The urban myth is HALF the fans left, quite a few did, but nothing like half <doh>


    If half the jax fans left, then when the final whistle went the players would outnumber the crowd ;)
     
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  8. snlk/poksnbn

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    up-the-jacks!
    Seriously are you really as thick as your comments portray or are you acting out a character?
     
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  9. BluefromBridgend

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    Oh dear, resorting to homophobic remarks. Come to think of it that was a previous Ladyboi retort so you could be on the right track Betty.
     
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  10. SBFF

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    WHat I want to know is why can't Swansea attract any decent players considering they are in the PL?
    And there is word they are about to lose another in Dyer!!!
    Didn't Derby have this problem when they went up, how did they get on?
     
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  11. Master Betty

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  12. up-the-jacks

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    i havent got a clue who ladyboi is. but you can think what you like.
     
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  13. up-the-jacks

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    SBFF as we are now a premier league team players expect wages that we dont agree with. we are not a derby we are swansea so how can you compare us to them? how are we going to lose dyer have not seen any bids in as yet. plus he is in talks over a new contract.
     
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  14. SBFF

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    So you're saying Dyer is definitely staying with you?
    You are absolutely struggling to sign players, hard to get past that one.
    When you are in the PL you have to expect to pay premier wages I would have thought.
    But I think you are badly placed as well, just 30 odd miles further into Wales but its having an effect , players at that level become fussy as to where they live.
    I seem to remember that Derby wouldn't spend and suffered as a result, it's a fair comparison iin all honesty.
     
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  15. up-the-jacks

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    well nobody knows do they nothing has been made public so my guess is yes he is. but why should we do a hull? they over spent look at them know. in alot of debt for 2 seasons in the prem? thats the difference between swansea and cardiff we wont expect our club to get into debt. if that what you would like for your club not much of a fan are you? go on bring the 90 million into it as that over so many years.
     
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  16. jackdan

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    Dyer is definitely staying with us, its just a reporter either making stuff up again (we all know they do it) or his agent looking to chance his hand at us offering him more as he is negotiating a new contract (again we all know they do it)

    We have signed 3 players so far and if reports are to be believed number 4 is on his way. You have signed 9 players. Now compare the rest of it. We spend £3.5 millions (at a minimum as keeper's transfer fee was undisclosed) you spent £1 million we have had to replace 7 players you have had to replace 13. So we may appear to be struggling given the amount you have been signing but you have had to basically replace your entire team so we are hardly struggling, we just don't need to rush can imagine at least another 3/4 will be with us by the close of the window.

    Not necessarily, you need to find the right players. West Ham, Birmingham, Hull have all been in Premiership paying players 'Premiership' wages. Where has it got them....that's right the Championship.

    Can see location and player fussyness being a factor in players moving to a club but not that much to stop them from signing for a club where they will be playing regular football etc. If so you have to ask yourself the question "is that a player you really want at your club?" Personally not but all I have heard from reports in the newspapers and interviews etc of our players who have travelled a fair distance to get here (Rangel, Dobbie, Orlandi for example) is that they love it

    Partly correct with Derby. Didn't spend much in pre season and up until xmas got 7 points. But they sacked manager and brought in 8 PLAYERS for the close of the season and got 4 POINTS. So if you look at it that way they suffered due to panic buying a mass amount of players in a short space of time....surely there is another team that that can be compared to but it isn't the swans!!! ps 2 of the players in that illustrious 11 point premiership team was KENNY MILLER AND ROBERT EARNSHAW

    Now the reason i have joined this thread even though its a cardiff board and people think segregation should be introduced blah blah blah is not to WUM but if up-the-jacks is a child as you are all claiming then surely you are bullying him and thats not right so im here to balance it out lol :)
     
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  17. SBFF

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    I always think its poor when one fan brings another fans allegience into a debate, especially when you know nothing of that person.
    I hope for your sake what you say is true but if i was a Swansea fan i would have some serious questions I would like answered.
    The 90 mill won't do a lot of good fro the club if it's in the back pocket of your chairman, and it's looking that way to be fair.
    Spend nothing, have a season in the prem(2 if you get real lucky,doubtful) come down with the parachute, spend nothing and pocket the winnings.
    Upshot of that is the fans dont get a fair deal, a chance to consolidate a position in the PL. which is the real aim of any ambitious club.
    You will see a lot of truth in what I say, its happening in front of your eyes right now.
    Your only hope is that 3 clubs up there will put less effort in than you, because your board will do nothing to improve your situation.
     
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  18. SBFF

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    Sorry jackdan, we posted at the same time.
    Not sure how old up-the -jacks is, but he isn't on my ignore list so he can't be all bad<laugh>

    Ypou make some fair points, but I feel it's a lot from the heart(we are all guilty) and not as it is.
    In thi day and age you need to get the players to keep you up and your board are seemingly not willing to spend to do this.
    How far off your 25 man squad are you? and as for Dyer, if his agent is starting to spread his name around then its a matter of time, if another club wants him that is.
    I guess one thing is for sure, if a player signs then its a good bet he will play well for you, because Swansea is a little off the beaten track in football terms.
     
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  19. jackdan

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    The allegiance was supposed to be a bit of a joke but its hard to convey it through writing so lets just ignore that, i said it because i thought some of the points you brought up were fundamentally wrong, but that is just my opinion, not claiming it to be gospel or anything.

    I doubt its going in the chairman's pocket, the board have only just started taking a part remuneration for their hard work after taking nothing for almost 10 years.

    Even if we do yoyo it doesnt seem to have done West Brom any harm so even though its not an ideal situation its not necessarily a bad one. Some fans will be pissed of with it some will accept it as a reality of the gap that has formed between the 2 divisions.

    The board have to use one of two strategies.
    Option 1. Blow it all, stay up and consolidate position (great) but the risk is that you lose, get relegated and get rid of all the large wage earners and have to put a quad together on peanuts in comparson to what you had.
    Option 2, aim to get the right players at the right price and spend wisely, if you stay up you got an even bigger pot to go for it and move forward next season or if you go down you have a massive pot of money, much more than most of the teams in the championship with a nearly in tact team and go back up!

    If Rodgers want a player the board will give him the money, but its good that we got a manager that understand that ambition isnt just what you do the following season but a long term aim. If only more managers and boards (and in large portions fans) could see that then we wouldnt get half as many teams in the financial **** as we do.

    As for us asking questions of our boards actions, you may not have seen my edit above, but 2 of the players in the Derby team that everyone is banging on about that we are gonna do worse than, contained Earnshaw and Miller. You think they any better not that they were 3/4 years ago???
     
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  20. jackdan

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    Is know what you mean, a lot of it is more sentimental that anything but i do believe that you spend the larger amounts of money on players if they fit your team and can do a job. for example £19 million for Henderson....no one in their right mind thinks he is worth that (he would have to be a lot more experienced) and even if he was he wont do a job at Liverpool as they dont need a player of that form yet

    I think we are prob about the 21 mark for players accounting for spaces for player to bring in so if we dont we got 25 men to go in squad...some of them may be no good for the premiership but we got 25 lol
     
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