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Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur vs. Arsenal 2015/16 Official Match Thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by TheOXOCube:5pur2, Mar 3, 2016.

  1. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    But... why? You don't know these fans personally, they don't do anything to you. What difference does it actually make to your life if they support Arsenal?
     
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  2. SpursDisciple

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    Loyalty to the club is different to loyalty to an employee.
     
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  3. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    I'm not taking specifically about Wenger, we have fans who turn on the manager, players, each other when it goes wrong. We also have others that just seem to hate Arsenal 24/7. I'm not prescribing how people should support their team, that's up to them. As it is how I choose to support my team. <ok>
     
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  4. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

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    No Cech or Kosc now either.....eeeek!

    Still fancy it to be a 0-0.
    Neither side will want to lose this.
    I think Leicester will be the only ones laughing after this weekend.
     
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  5. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    Come now... there's the potential for some Arsenal fans to laugh at how much more the club can sink?
     
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  6. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    I haven't come across anyone here who was anti-Arsenal, but they are anti-Wenger.
     
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  7. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    Nor have I seen fans 'turn on each other when things go wrong'. Unless telling some fans they're maniacs for holding bizarre opinions is 'turning on them'? To me that's just telling them they're maniacs.

    He also says he doesn't 'prescribe how others should support their team'... but does also say in other posts that he wants all fans who are fair weather to stop supporting Arsenal, as if they have any significant impact on his life.
     
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  8. Arsenal87

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    Piskie is as predictable as Wenger's Arsenal, every year it's the same thing from him......When we start bottling it, instead of him being man enough to come out and say yeah this is sh!t, Wenger has bottled it again, and needs to go, he comes out playing the martyr, and going on about this 'support Arsenal through thick and thin' nonsense where he starts questioning other people. It's because he has no actual legit arguments to support his delusional blind support for Wenger, he resorts to that rubbish oh support Arsenal and stick by the team bla bla bla. Note, these are the exact same words used by Wenger, lol, talk about being like a brainwashed cult follower.

    As others have said, this isn't at all about being anti-Arsenal, but anti-Wenger and his constant bottle jobs, we as fans, the ones who have ambitions for this club, are sick of the bottle jobs, we are sick of finishing 3rd-4th, sick of not winning the big titles with how much money we pay, how much money this club makes, and how much resources this club has. We are fed up of it, that's what it comes down to.

    Que when the season ends, when Piskie will be on about giving Wenger another summer to go out and make the needed signings to redeem himself with just one more chance.

    Piskie, like Wenger, is a broken record on constant repeat.
     
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  9. lazarus20000

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    I really do hope this is Wenger's last season for us but I also hope we bring the right replacement in. I did hope to get Klopp or Pep but we missed the boat on both occasions. But the last thing we want is him going on for another season, using the transfer money that should be used by a new manager. We need a new direction and that includes giving as much support to the new guy coming in. Wenger is so far entrenched in Arsenal that any criticism is ignored and swept aside. He one of the highest paid managers in the Premiership, getting a whopping £8m and somehow he is immune to criticism? I can understand if he was doing the job for free or getting paid little, but £8m?!?! He's the manager, he buys and sets up his teams the way he wants. If we can't criticise him, then who can we? Is it the fault of the kit man?

    In my opinion, a guy who has that much control, gets that much pay and brings in what he wants with a huge transfer kitty, is open to criticism. His inability to motivate our players at such a key moment of the season is terrible. This is one of the basic roles of the manager, getting the best from your players even when the chips are down. At the moment, few are playing well, Sanchez, who is usually reliable and gutsy looks well out of sorts.

    I had so many expectations after our financial restricted and we won the FA. But we haven't much ground at all and the buck ends firmly with the manager, Wenger.
     
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  10. Bodinki

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    See thats Wengers fault too.
    If he had stepped down at the end of last season, as most people wanted him too, then Klopp and Pep may have been options.
     
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  11. lazarus20000

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    He should have stepped down after the first FA cup win, but his stubbornness got in the way. He really is past his best and this season is showing his shortcomings in all its glory. It's frankly sad as he's brought so many good memories to Arsenal fans and will always be a legend in our eyes. Some might not like Fergie, but he knew when to leave, and he did it at exactly the right time.

    I wanted to be wrong about Wenger and I'd love nothing but for him to win the title, but the way our form goes from good to bad defies any explanation. He has so much experience yet he can't stop the rot.
     
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  12. PINKIE

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    Anyway, anybody actually looking forward to the game tomorrow ?
     
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  13. Arsenal87

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    No not looking forward to the game at all not exciting to be in another fight for top 4 and to watch another game of weak bottlers embarassing themselves
     
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  14. Krome

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    Honestly, no. The players might surprise us but the evidence from both teams suggest its going to be a bad day
     
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    yes
     
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  16. Arsenal87

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    Arsenal have won 2 out of their last 8 league games, lost their last 3 in a row, failed to win in our last 4, what's to look forward to? At this point the only thing I'm looking forward to is this season ending.

    This is a game to bounce back? Haven't we heard that before? And if we beat Spurs is that really bouncing back? Ever since we beat Leicester which was supposed to be a big moment, we haven't won a single game. It's the same **** with Arsenal always, so even if we miraculously win tomorrow, it won't mean anything, it won't be us turning the corner as Wenger and his minions will try to tell us, we will most likely go on to drop points again in our next match VS Everton away.

    We're just a team of bottlers, plain and simple, that's all, with players more interested in hair styles, selfies, and happy to pick up their big pay cheques which they don't deserve, the fact that Walcott is on 100+k a week is the biggest ****ing joke on the planet.
     
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    That's the spirit :)
     
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  18. Arsenal87

    Arsenal87 Well-Known Member

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    It's the truth, what's the point in having this false hope-fighting spirit when the players don't? and constantly let us down? Always put our hopes up for them to destroy it, **** them, and to hell with this useless manager, when he goes I can get my spirits back up again. Wenger out, and I will celebrate.
     
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  19. PINKIE

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    Just you and me then mate. I'm always nervous before a NLD. But with everybody writing us off and expecting Spurs to win, I think it might take the pressure off a bit. Also being away from the Emirates is probably a good thing for us at the moment.

    So, if we win. We're level wth Spurs .....
     
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  20. Arsenal87

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    The fact you mention going 'level with Spurs' like it's something to be happy about or look forward to, shows how pathetic our situation is, weren't we like 6 points above them at one point in the season? Also if we didnt bottle it (again) on Wednesday, we could have been level on points with them already, and be above them if we did beat them.

    Arent we supposed to be the better team in North London? LOL and I'm supposed to be happy about being level with the Spuds, geeeee this club is really really going places.

    #Wengerout
     
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