It was our worst performance since we lost at home to Newcastle. I'd agree with what Ern said, Kane looked completely knackered. And he wasn't the only one!
Not even close. If Leicester win the league this season, they'll be the biggest outsider EVER, in the history of World sport! There's never been a winner of ANYTHING who have come in at the starting odds of 5000/1.
Course I do! Any fan who has no chance of them winning it should want to them. If they win it then it will probably be the greatest achievement in the modern era anywhere in the world! It's hard to describe just how ****ing big it would be... Also, obviously jealous it's not us, but they've kind of restored my faith in football as well this season, whether they go on to win it or not, they've been bloody brilliant n should finish top 3/4 at very least! Good luck Leicester, we're all rooting for you
Yep would be massive, bigger than Greece though as a cup competition you need a bit of luck to win. A 38 game season is a different kettle of fish entirely
Please tell me you are joking! Go and read about what Forest did when Clough took over, and learn something about why it is that Cloughie is widely regarded as the greatest English manager to have ever graced the game.
Different eras mate, you used to get teams win promotion and then go on and challenge for the title straight away, in the current era? As I said above it's hard to find the words to describe how big it would be...
even look at there team its full of rejects .( i dont want to sound harsh ) cause there are way better than my team ha ha
Sorry, but that's complete tosh! Go and read what Cloughie did with Forest, and then come back and tell me that that was what normally happened in that era.
i hope arsenal dont win it ..the manner they play diving aboot all the time ..wenger is in panic mode . i recon the players dont look bothered , or been found and can not handle pressure
I know what Cloughie achieved thanks I'm not saying that's what normally happened, but you can't compare that with the current era. Derby won the league within a couple of years of promotion under Clough. Ipswich won 2nd division and 1st division title back to back the decade before. There wasn't anything near the financial gap there is today. Difficult to compare really, which is why my original post on the matter said it's by the bar the greatest achievement of the modern era anywhere in the world. EDIT: Just checked n got my decades mixed up. Forest's promotion etc. was in 70s. Both Derby & Ipswich in the 60s. SO 3 teams in 20 years got promoted and wont the title within 3 seasons (2 in their first season). Compared to current era what's the highest a newly promoted team is finished in PL?
Always been a huge admirer of what Brian Clough acheived at Forest (and Derby) despite the obvious rivaly - just had to bite my tongue and look on in envy ... but I do tend to agree with you ... back then there was hardly a foreign player in the British leagues and the monetary gulf was nowhere near as wide .. Raheem Sterling cost CITEH twice as much as the team we put out at CITEH ... One reason why Leicester fans are currently in a state of euphoric disbelief is that it really is unbelieveable that we are competing with several clubs that have single players (some multiple) that cost more than our entire team ... yes we might have expected to upset the odd big team (like Man Utd last season) but those are normally isolated surprises ... rather than the norm as this season has become .. same for the Spammers I'd guess ....
What he achieved at that club over the span - including the EC wins wasn't what was being discussed. The question was - would Leicester winning the PL be the biggest underdog win of all time, and the answer is YES. The odds denote that them winning the league would be the biggest outsider win in the history of World sport - it's a definitive fact, and so not even a discussion.
No, it isn't. What Cloughie did with Forest was far more impressive. If Leicester do win the title this season, and then go on to win the CL next season, and then win it again the season after, I'll concede that, on balance, Leicester's achievements will have eclipsed those of Cloughie's Forest. Until then, no amount of "yeah, but it was a different era" bollocks is gong to impress me.
You're seemingly incapable of digesting simple facts old chap. Whatever your subjective opinion is, the simple facts i.e. the odds - dictate that this sporting achievement would be the biggest outsider victory in the history of sport. Forest were league champions when they entered and then won the EC, and we weren't discussing the relative merits and achievements of the respective managers over their entire tenures at their clubs We were talking about this potential win as a single sporting achievement you knuckle head
The only one incapable of anything in this debate is you, Tobes. Go back and actually read what I wrote. Forest won the top flight title the year after moving up a division. The following season, they won the European Cup, and they won it again the season after that, a feat that hasn't been matched in English football. How on Earth can Leicester merely winning the EPL title this season (if they do win it) even match that, let alone surpass it? Your argument beggars belief!
now there's a surprise ... only you could completely discount the prime influencing factor in another's point of view .. of course the different era dynamic is important you plum... arguably the single most important factor in any comparison ... ... how many African players were plaing in the English top division at the time that Forest or Derby won the league, how many South Americans? .. indeed how many Europeans? ... but that doesn't matter at all eh?
When wanting to win an argument it is best to focus on the facts that suit your needs and ignore any facts that may mean that you have to rethink or reconsider your stance regardless of how valid they are.. And there it is, the problem with modern society in one sentence.
Forest when they came up were nowhere near the level of outsider that Leicester were at the start of this season. So that FACT denotes by definition, that the league back then was more open and Forest's likelihood of success was therefore deemed to be greater than Leicesters was this season. Again you're trying to shoe horn Forests ongoing success i.e the EC wins into this debate, when all it was ever about was this (potential) single sporting achievement If you want to have a debate about whether Leicester could emulate the overall achievement of that Forest side, then start another thread on the subject you complete dolt.
No, it isn't! It can only become an influencing factor if you were to place that Forest team in today's EPL, or this Leicester side in that Div 1, which is impossible. Otherwise, each side plays on a level playing-field. Your argument is tantamount to saying that Forest's achievements in the late 70s and early 80s ought to be marginalised because football was not as competitive back then, which is clearly rubbish! The standards of skill and fitness might not match today's levels, but they were universal across all divisions at the time!
