Politics Thread - Europe Out or In..

Times have changed and a failure to adapt to the modern age will haunt us. The future is in the EU, the past is in the commonwealth

 

a failing eu with spiralling debt crashing economies lack of accountability compared to a set of nations managed by head of state democatically elected by the people to act on their behalf not some nobody anyones heard of. I dont see the likes of canada struggling

 

Canada is in a totally different position to the UK. in other news Australia is fine.

In our position the EU is much more favourable.

 

You appear to know very little about the past, and if you don't know the past you will never know the future!

 

You can never know the future only play the percentage game. We are better on percentage wise in the EU

 

I'd also like to point out that EU regulations are often to standardise things such as dimensions and other factors across Europe. These make it easier to design things for the whole of europe. We have to abide by this trading with europe whether in the EU or not.

 

So what difference would leaving make?

Come back when you have had some life experience because repeating waffle is very easy to spot.

 

What metric?

I'm sure we can still use it.

And please enlighten me on what times have changed that we have fallen behind on?

 

Its a shame you were not around before this EU farce,you really would have seen how much better our country was.

The problem being you only know what has gone before you.

 

Afraid, without being to unkind, that MTG is young and impressionable. Come on guys, when we were his age we spouted similar stuff.
Apparently most of his age want to remain, the scares of Cameron's 'leap in the dark' worries them.
To be honest I'd have thought the young would have more balls.
I resigned a directorship in my 30's to set up my own business. Surprise surprise I was told that I was taking a 'leap in the dark' especially with 2 young children to look after.
Thank God I didn't listen to them.

MTG - have the balls and confidence in yourself and GREAT Britain.

 

I disagree with this age statement being a thing I wouldn't be in favour of leaving if it

 

Same here 28 year in business employing 10 staff,took the plunge and it paid off,as one would say our fathers and their fathers would turn in their graves if they heard and saw what was going on with our once Great Country.

 

The facts are that the older generation want to get out whereas the younger generation want to stay in (according to current surveys). So this will be age vote. The problem with the older generation is that they becomes stuck in their ways and hanker back to the "good old days" whereas youngsters are more alive to the current viewpoints. You will also note that several of the older generation are totally intolerant of others views and often use dismissive and personal insults to justify their argument. This "I am always right" attitude also raises its ugly head in threads about local Football rivalry (no hatred) and we wonder why we breed idiots who deface the Memorial gates. I have spent my life looking after my family but never at the expense of others. Whatever happened to the power of debate and concern for your fellow man?. Sometimes I despair, although that despair is accompanied with hope in that the younger generation by and large see the bigger picture and are the future. Unfortunately it is history which has caused most the problems in the world but it is the youngsters who have got to live with them (and sort them out) if they can.

 

The problem with the older generation is that they becomes stuck in their ways and hanker back to the "good old days"

If going back to the good old days means leaving the EU and getting some form of control back over our own country, who we do and don't allow onto our shores, and that isn't dictated by Brussels, then I'm all for it !

 

I admit I misphrased the last the paragraph,

In short, accross europe there are regulations that are there to protect us, such as maximum radiation from phones and against ozone depleting CFCs. These regulations have to be obeyed by anything being sold in the EU. Therefore by leaving the eu we have to obey these regulations.

Another part of these regulations are standard sizes for highly used items across Europe, if we had our own ones that were different, no one would make for us, and if they did it would cost more. Likewise it would effect us making stuff for others.

Is a case of if you want to sell to us you have to abide by our rules and being in the EU does not affect that. Although it makes it easier

 

That's fine if you feel like that. I suspect many the countries we raped and pillaged throughout history felt the same way. The problem is that you cant turn the clock back you can only look forward. Lets hope the country makes the right decision for the right reasons.

We must not end up with a divided country. Recent events in Iraq, The Balkans and now Syria Have led to regimes where military suppression evolves and we know the consequences of that and the resulting even worse mess.