It's called self interest which after all is the credo of the right. How can I maintain my handy power base. There is their logic.
It's the past, which is where these loonies want to live. Everyone else has moved on and they still want it to be 1945.
I’m for a truly democratic world government with large free market and state sectors, because there’s no way to rein in the big corporations with nations competing for them. But maybe the People’s Republic of London could be the vanguard of that revolution. Count yourself lucky. Our right wingers aren’t happy at all with the present, and are working to bring on the Rapture ASAP. On the bright side, however unlikely a democratic world government may be, it’s a hell of a lot likelier than the Rapture.
Well at least they don't have access to weapons that could cause the apocalypse. That could end badly.
Please don't discuss British politics here. Cameron irritates me. He looks and acts like a Victorian toff. He's never done a proper day's work in his life. It's not 1880 and Britain doesn't have an Empire.
Victorian times is exactly where we're heading. The first Poor Houses from G4S are being built in Essex.
I look at my children's prospects and see they are infinitely worse than mine and I left school in 1981 to riots and unemployment .It took me 9 months to get a job in a supermarket stacking shelves and I thought that was bad. Labour have voted in Michael Foot II and we're going to get a procession of Eton and Hell Fire Club ****ers stealing our children's futures. This country makes me weep!
That will be landowners with 100 acres or more then. Probably bring that in as a requirement for standing for elections as well
Titled male landowners, get it right. Jolly bad show letting women have the vote, even the women with rich husbands. Oh yes, we should ban women from driving as well, road safety and all of that........And anyone driving one of those Mercs, BMW's, Audis or Volks-thingies should be labled a traitor and dispatched to the Tower. And those Italian Cars, apart from Ferraris and Lambos of course, the owners must be fools and should be disenfranchised.
Buck up, chums! These aren't bad times for everybody! http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/feb/22/queen-makes-dogs-dinner-of-corgi-hierarchy "Her Majesty likes to treat [her Corgis] like royalty, dispensing succulent dishes of steak, rabbit or chicken from individual menus and served from silver and porcelain borne by a liveried servant."
I am currently intending to vote for Brexit, but I am not entirely unpersuadable. I'll try to lay out my opposition below and if anyone has any positive arguments for staying in the EU I'd be glad to hear them - I know they exist but I'd like to hear them made well. My main gripe is that our membership makes us a net loss of £35m in tax payers money every single day. The justification for this is that as a rich country our money should go to improving the lives of substantially less fortunate EU citizens. This is a noble goal, and I am all for wealth redistribution, but I see examples everyday of how this money is being mis-spent by recipient nations and only increasing income inequalities in the poorest parts of the EU. I believe our parliament is far better equipped to decide how to spend our tax payers money, both at improving life for UK citizens, and better managing our foreign aid budget to help those truly in need around the world. The rest of our EU contribution goes to supporting a number of vast bureaucratic machines in Belgium, Luxembourg and Germany, which only serve to undermine the sovereignty of our own democratically elected parliament - these EU institutions have produced some good legislation and some bad legislation, but nothing I can see which our own parliament would have been incapable of introducing in its own right. Another fundamental issue I have is with freedom of movement, which again is noble in principle but has been disastrous in practice, and the EU has shown a total unwillingness to budge on this issue. Under EU management London in particular has become an unsustainable magnet for citizens from all over the EU, a very small proportion of whom choose to move to other, particularly Northern, Scottish, Northern Irish, Welsh or Cornish cities. The UK should be doing everything in its power to polycentralise and diversify away from London and membership of the EU is undermining this. Another reason why I would like to take back more border control is that I would want any immigrant to the UK to have secured a job here already, and I don't think Cameron's 4 year benefits restriction will have much affect on this. Finally I am deeply frustrated by the insistence from the IN camp that leaving the EU would be an economic disaster, particularly the assumption that all of our EU trade will disappear overnight. The whole point in trade is that it is beneficial for both parties, and for this reason trade agreements would likely be in place before we even departed.
Like I said in an earlier post (Which the PM plagerised), Great Britian will be always be great, in or out of Europe providing we stick together as one unit. Independently, I think we may all fail. Starting with your last point first, the markets don't like uncertainty and a Brexit will certainly cause uncertainy. The upshot will be a short term fall in the value of the Pound, which in itself may not be such a bad thing. It would make British manufacturing industry far more competitive. The absence of the European working time directive would also make British industry more competive. There would be a down side for workers, in particular the low paid and those on the minimum wage because a fall in the value of the Pound would reduce it's buying power effectively reducing the minimum wage, again this would make British industry more competitive. Providing trade deals are in place, which almost certainly they would be, foreign companies like Japanese Motor manufactures for instance are unlikely to move their manufacturing bases from the UK because they would see their profits increase with a fall in Stirling and in fact, they might expand their production here. However, it might discourage new foreign companies from investing here. In the longer term, Stirling will bounce back with better manufacturing figures and the benifits from a fall in Stirling to industry would be eroded. The issues I see with Europe is the move towards federalism. We joined the EEC (European Economic Community) which has become the EU (European Union) and many insiders want to see a United States of Europe. The move to the Euro will never work until there is only one exchequer, and one central parliament, with regional parliaments to sort out local affairs. The current situation with poorer countries keeping the value of the Euro down provides an unlevel playing field for the industrial power-houses such as Germany. If they still had the Deutch Mark, in terms of a basket of foreign currencies, German cars, white goods etc. would cost almost double which could cripple German industry. The federalists recognise this, which is why they want to head in that direction. In my view the major benifit of being within the Union is the security that it gives us, i.e. if we had to fight a war there would be immediate support from fellow members. Yes, if one of the other members was invaded we would be obliged to support them but the world is becoming a more dangerous place and I would not want to be alone as we were in 1939. The 35 million Pounds per day we pay into Europe would very quickly be engulfed by the extra money that we would have to spend on defence. The child support 'sending money home' is a bit of a political hot potato but in real terms the sums involved are negligable. Personally I think if you work here you should be entitled to the same in-work benifits. Unemployment benifit is different, I think it should be a loan, rather than free, for the first however many years. A bit like a student loan. We could roll that out to British as well. If you never earn a certain amount, you would neverb have to pay it back. Personally, I feel the deal that the PM has negociated, in particular the veto to federlisation with respect to the UK and never joining the Euro is exactly what was needed. I safeguards our independence whilst protecting our security, which to me are the most important things. I would also be appalled to see a real reduction in the buying power of Stirling, even in the short term, as it will affect the worse-off in our society most. I shall therefore vote to stay in.
