Off Topic Mafia game: The island

Cut n paste from Tennis above:

Ghosts can't vote or choose escape routes, but they do seem to make a kill every night.


From Night 3 summary:

In the night the temperature drops suddenly and those on watch drift off to sleep. A fog moves in off the lake, it swirls round the camp and if anyone was awake they might make out 5 distinct forms within it. There is a gasp, and a death rattle You wake suddenly as a ghastly cackles hare heard and fade quickly as the fog dissipates Prisoner 9 is found another ghostly white completely drained face stares lifelessly back at you.



Just spotted...the 5 distinct forms tally with the 5 player deaths before hand (DPP, IBWT, Chaos, Valley, BobbyD)

 

I had pointed that out already!!

I think I'm falling into my usual trap of making my posts too long and people are only skim reading them.

If that is the case, I'd recommend all townies re-read my posts in detail. There are clues in there that can help us win!!

 

I said this earlier There were far more deaths at the lake than there were at the hotel. The sea is defo the way to go, but not via the lake

 

Dammit Nev..that would entail..thinking! And not just blindly following gut reactions, vague hunches and shooting from the hip

 

There was also a link on the first night with DPP's death when it said 8 or 10. Eight people voted for the garden. that suggests direction and Escpae / lynch is somehow linked

 

I'm ****ing town Lay off!

 

That was extensively discussed at the time...it was the 8 or 10 bit that muddied the waters..as Mito seems to be careful in his wording

 

You never share your roll you fat ****.

 

Agree (and have said so consistently) that the direction choice CAN have a Bad outcome

 

I explained I wasn't around on day one as I had some serious **** to discuss with my eldest daughter. That's why I didn't comment/vote. I was around on day 2, but had a lot of catching up at work to do. I did vote and comment though

 

yes it will.

this is not a football game. football is parked at the door.

besides.

LFC will be 4 up in 35mins and ud will be 3 down by 9pm.

 

If he'd just said eight at the time the link would have been too obvious so he had to add something else in there. With the night three "five" wording, does it add weight to the "eight" part of the first night?

If it does, I've still no idea how we can use that information if at all. I would imagine it has some role to play otherwise why say it?

I think they first was a clue that directions have consequences. the second was a clue that the dead are able to kill. not sure there is anything else in it.

 

Site is very slow again

 

Summary Post 2 of 3


Exploration options and escape route

OK so if I was Mito there's no way I would set the game up to only have one or two 'correct' escape routes, because if you pick the incorrect route on day 1 the game is pretty much over and town can't win.

So the way I would do it is make multiple escape routes (maybe 3, one for each main direction at the start of the game, or 6 where there are 2 for every direction).
What would then happen is if people choose the wrong fork in the path they have to double back and make the correct choice the next time, at the expense of wasting a couple of days.
So there is a set number of correct choices to make, let's assume it's 4.
The quickest route is 4 correct choices.
If you make 1 bad choice and then double back the next day, it would take 6 days (you waste a day backtracking to the previous position).
If you make 2 bad choice and then double back the next day both times, it would take 8 days. We won't last that long!
Etc. etc.

So if we were not getting killed we would definitely escape, but due to the regular killings it becomes an issue of time, so we can only afford to make a few wrong turn or else we won't escape.
I'm sure Mito worked on the basis that we would make (for example) 2 out of 3 correct choices, and worked out the escape route that way.
He frequently states we need to look at previous clues, so I think that means we need to learn from our mistakes.
It's hard to know up front which options are right or wrong, but I see the options given to us as follows:

Do you:
(A) Head north and the hotel
(B) Return to the lake
(C) Enter the mountains.

I see (B) as the only viable option, this is my reasoning:

(A) Head north and the hotel
This means we're back at the start, so we would have wasted 3 or 4 days as we would be faced with the same choices as day 1 (upstairs, downstairs, gardens) or day 2 (Head East, Head North, Head South), but we would be on day 5.
I can pretty much guarantee you that this means we will have 0% chance of escaping as we would essentially be resetting our escape attempt, but we keep losing members.
I am sure the escape route is a set number of choices as mentioned above.
Heading back to the hotel loses 4 days and then we start from scratch, so we're screwed.
I am EXTREMELY suspicious of the guys who proposed this route, I know Gerrez and RHC did, I don't know who else though?
We're trying to escape the island, I can't see heading back to ground zero being a logical choice in any circumstances after 5 days.

(C) Enter the mountains.
I strongly believe that Mito would not reward us for just ploughing ahead. Mito says "Your hearts sink. You look about and find that you have come to a plain. To the north you see the hotel where you started from, below to the east the lake you were at. You see nothing but mountains around you." Not exactly very hopeful there.
His multiple warning to look for clues etc. means to me that he expects us to learn from our mistakes, so I think this will waste a further day and we would need to use up TWO days to hike back to the Lake.
I really don't think it's a good idea.

so the only one left is:
(B) Return to the lake
I think we should just accept we took a wrong turn and go back. If we do our options will be:

Future options:
(D) Follow the path
(E) Follow the waterfall to the west
(F) Follow the river to the east.

I would pick (F), reasoning:

(D) Follow the path
"It so thick you cannot see any good way to get through it. You could get lost forever in it, you find one narrow path you might take"
Looks like a bad idea, I would avoid it.

(E) Follow the waterfall to the west
We did this yesterday, bad idea.

(F) Follow the river to the east.
As others mentioned it links to the sea again, and that is one way off the island eventually unless one of us can fly and we find a chopper!
But to be honest the other options suck so that's as much a reason as any to pick this.
I think we should keep heading for the sea and hope to escape, hopefully we only need to make one more correct choice after this.

 

Escape table:
G'inho 3 vote by: AFCFTW, RHC, Penfold
RHC: 1 Vote by: G'Ihno

yet to vote: astro, Less Hope, Nolberto, Sir Tennisball

Action table:
Head north and the hotel: 2 Vote by: RHC, Gerrez
Return to the lake
Enter the moutains.

yet to vote: astro, Penfold, AFCFTW, Less Hope, Nolberto, Sir Tennisball

current table

 

This fits with my thinking....

I'll vote Return to the lake


Edit - if anybody has information that means they know this is a bad choice they should be posting it along with good, well explained reasons (and not just that 5 people died there yesterday as that could have been part of the game mechanics)

 

On route are you in agreement to aiming for the shoreline?

If so, is the route via the Hotel not the quickest? One day to Hotel and one day to Sea. Going back to Lake one day and then "follow river to east" doesn't say we will get to shoreline and that might waste another day then getting to shoreline/sea. Don't think we will last 3 days. Might not even last tonight at the rate we are going but that's by the by. Therefore definitely get to shoreline in two days via Hotel but only might get to shoreline by going via Lake.

Also not sure if relevant but more deaths occurred at Lake than at Hotel. May be just down to the "dead" party joining but might be as Lake was wrong choice.

 

Also:

just a quick note:

this crashed at 6am to 8am and 1pm for about 10 mins.

If you have actions, please bank them with me.

If people feel they are badly affected and can't poast later or anything if it crashes let me know.

 

No one is saying it's an excuse

 

We can't escape whilst bad guys exist. Kill the bad guys and we escape. The directions won't lead us to freedom imo. only clues and consequences.