Off Topic Mafia game: The island

Red Hadron ColIider - usually shoots himself in the foot if he has a role. Maybe he's learnt his lesson and decided to keep quiet? I think he's only made about two posts all game! (voted no one, Style & AFC so far)

astroturfnaut - help whether good or bad. I always suspect him but I have no real reason to in this game (voted BobbyD, RHC & ACS so far)

Penfold's Adviser - Seems helpful but as Tennis will vouch, can be a devious ****er in these games (voted DDP, Valley & Tobes so far)

afcftw - he's beena ctive but not as active in previous game. However, a couple of games ago a few players moaned at him chucking theories around and he seems to have calmed down a bit since so maybe just his new way of playing? (voted Chaos, no one & ACS so far)

Less Hope Than Neville - claims a role, only player to do so. Since we have no idea what roles are in this game, we have no way of knowing if it's a genuine role or not. I'm inclined to believe him but again I'll refer to a previous game were he's convinced me he's innocent when not. I think it would be a very brave move to attempt to reveal a role without being push at this stage. (voted Bod, Valley & Tobes so far)

G'inho - 100% innocent (voted Nev, Astro and no one so far)

Nolberto's Salsa Inferno - I know he's played a few times now but I really don't know him well enough to judge. (voted no one, style & no one so far)

Sir Tennisball - plays the same whether good or bad. Hard to read. (voted DDP, ACS & ACS fo far)



No idea how helpful that is. I have no links for the remaining players. If pushed to pick the most suspicious, I'd say everyone bar me

 

DPP (Second Escapee)

This was a fully successful investigation

The facts we were all told.....

Closer examination of the room showed that DPP had not slept in his bed. His body was cold to the touch and he had been dead long enough for rigor mortis to set in. He had obviously been dead a long time and hadn't been killed just before we broke into the room. The wound in his chest was not as neat as it had first appeared. It hadn't been a blade that inflicted the wound. Closer examination of the wounds,a s well as the blood around the room showed that he hadn't been killed by the stabbing. This was done as a distraction. He had marks around his mouth that showed he had been smothered and killed silently. On examining the chimney I found some broken pottery pieces. One of these pieces matched exactly the wounds in the chest. I also found a handprint on the pottery. The handprint, along with the way the wound was formed showed that the person who carried out the murder was left handed.

Another important point is that the body was colder than it should have been. It was less than room temperature. There is no medical explanation for this.

That was the limit of my examination. i was there to examine the medical facts rather than to solve the murder. I suspect these facts are intended to tie in with facts that others learned (probably Bobby though, and he is dead )

Edit: I also discovered that the black marks on the rug were indeed soot from the chimney.

 

Well only 6 more people to go!!

And thanks you get caught up in a bad bunch and no-one lets you forget it no matter how much you turn your life round!!!

 

Reigning champions don't get caught up

 

Valley (Third Escapee)

Partially successful investigation

I was confused by the smell of alcohol coming from the body as it didn't seem to fit in with the rest of the scene. The fact that the body was floating was also confusing. Valley should have swallowed lots of water as he panicked and struggled to stay afloat, but the body was floating and hadn't sunk. When I checked, his lungs were full of air and not water. There was no blood in the trail of mud leading from the changing rooms to the pool. In the changing rooms I found the rest of Valley's leg. It had been cut off in an attempt to make the death look like an attack by some sort of beast. I also noticed footprints from three different shoes in the changing rooms. He had been killed before he was thrown in the pool.

I failed to identify the method of his killing.

One thing I have only just noticed as I went back through this to type it up -

Why was Prisoner 21 trailing water everywhere????

It looks like these deaths are being carried out by people who are attempting to make them look stranger than they really are, and going to great lengths to deceive us as to the means of death.

Any input from the rest of you about any clues I may have missed, or what I have found out might lead to, would be greatly appreciated!!!

 

Finally i can rip

Do the rest boys

 

I haven't had the opportunity to investigate Albert's death yet.

I only investigate the deaths of the escapees, and not those killed by the dead, the acolytes or the mafia.

One other thing that became clear to me during my investigations is that the directions we head in as a group, and the locations we end up in are very important. I know that somebody else within our group (so I suspect town) is aware of the importance of these too. I wasn't told who that person is or what information they have as that is not part of my remit as the M.E. I don't know if it is somebody who is still alive or not, but if it is then they need to start speaking up when it comes to the locations.

It might be worthwhile someone with a good geographic sense trying to draw up a sort of map too from the locations we have been told about so far, to see if they can spot a pattern in where we should be heading. I get the feeling it is key to our ability to escape.

 

This is the bit I will be investigating tomorrow....

 

RHC - has been inactive but came on and voted for me for no reason, said he hadn't been following the game and was making a random vote. Voted with ACS (Acolyte) on the lynch and direction. If he hadn't been following anything I don't see how it helped us to randomly vote for me, and the other option is he was being directed to vote by a team mate. It's hard to tell with RHC, particularly when he has barely posted anything. Either way he's not been of any use. He's the sort of person I wouldn't mind the vigilante taking a chance on if we have one

Astro - has done lots of trying to figure out the direction stuff and the clues. Normally I'm suspicious of Astro but this game he hasn't done anything which has made me particularly suspect him...which probably means he is guilty As Gerrez says he can be helpful whether he is good or bad. Difficult to read.

Penfold - hasn't been very active so I haven't had much of a read on him one way or another, haven't really seen any links with him and anyone else either. Could be bad and going under the radar, could be a good guy /shrug

Afcftw (me) - I know I'm innocent and think by now some people should have a town read on me. I've also voted to kill Chaos (Guard) and ACS (Acolyte) and not been involved in lynching any innocent person.

Nev - have been getting a town read on him throughout the game and am inclined to believe his current claim though I'll have to read it all in the morning again to see if it all actually makes sense! High up my innocent list.

Gerrez - not as involved as usual but gave reasons for inactivity, has so far voted for two people who, innocent or not, have been trying to help solve things. Also voted the same direction as RHC and ACS against the rest of the town for the river and voted to lynch me with them saying he wanted to even things up before withdrawing that vote and saying he was joking. Mild suspicion.

Nolberto - I've on the whole got a town read from him though he has remained mainly in the background and not done anything with his votes to draw attention that I've noticed, no early votes or late votes, no votes which have had any impact on anything that's happened, not even voted on more than one occasion. Could be a bad guy trying to blend in but I'm leaning towards innocent when he does post. I suppose he's in my unsure pile.

Tennis - along with Nev has been my strongest town read, getting involved and trying to figure things out, lots of well thought out posts etc...

 

FFS the detective probably gets info like "X is left-handed", "Y has a strong accent"

 

Diagnosis Murder (TV Series)
Left-Handed Murder (1996)
Plot Summary

Just when Jesse takes a now unamused girlfriend yachting, the harbor master brings in a shark who swallowed an arm of rich stock broker Preston Michaels, presumably haven fallen overboard, plausibly drunk, but autopsy soon finds he was fatally poisoned with digitalis, the shark got a fatal heart-attack. Curious Mark condoles respectable widow Bea and learns from lawyer Raymond Bergman he is named executor of the estate; Preston on a posthumous video admits he was a bigamist having two younger wives in other states, fitness freak Heather (Florida) and Terri (Colorado) Michaels who was told he wanted a divorce; all wives deny to know about the others but lack alibis, while Preston's personal assistant, Susan Stimpson, says she managed his triple life. Raymond Bergman calls Mark to tell who he suspects but just then is killed by his pool. The firm's VP Evan Houston, now acting CEO, also was in the house and asks Mark $50,000 of Preston's capital for firm expenses. Steve finds Stimpson fully packed, with a one-way ticket for Bermuda and a fortune in cash, from blackmailing Preston. Mark keeps snooping...

#google

 

#calledit

He was strangled with the shoelace

 

I've just spent the last two hours watching the film 'No Escape' (1994) looking for clues

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Escape_(1994_film)

http://putlocker.is/watch-no-escape-online-free-putlocker.html

It's about a bunch of prisoners of rival factions stuck on an island (Absalom) and watched over from afar by an evil Warden. I didn't notice any obvious clues, though it did have a river, lake, waterfall, sea, hills, etc.

There might be no connection, but some things did give me some ideas.

First of all the Warden was not on the island. We have assumed that the warden is one of prisoners 1-18. It is possible that he is, but it might also be the case that MITO is the warden (or another unnamed player). If this was the case it might give us a little hope that there might be an extra townie still alive. He could have his guards on the island, but so far we have seen no evidence of guard kills (other than escapees who we choose ourselves).

That still leaves the following role as unaccounted for, unless it is being filled by a secret player we don't know anything about....

The wording of it - as sitting apart from the others - could lend weight to the warden being a player that 'sits apart from the others' and could even be a player not listed in the 18.

There is also the issue of players 19-23. These could be players controlled by the warden to prevent escape. It doesn't explain why they are being killed off (I have no idea why that might be happening) but it might be that these players are the ones killing the escapees. Perhaps when they are all dead a new option might open up to us, based on other conditions being met (location, who else is still alive, etc) that could point us towards successful escape.

There are three reasons I am wondering if prisoners 19-23 are the ones who were carrying out the killing of escapees (actually players 19-22 as 23 was killed as an escape and may have been a construct of the game to give us a starting point for investigations and clues).

1. Prisoner 21 was dripping with water when he came to tell us about finding Valley's body. Why was he wet? Why had he been in the pool?
2. There were three sets of footprints in the changing area. This could have been prisoners 19, 20 & 21 as 22 was already dead.
3. Each investigation I have to make choices based on clues. One of the options I didn't choose (because I thought there was a better option to explore) was to examine the body of prisoner 21. I am now wondering if my examination of him would have shown me that he is left handed.

I am not convinced any of this is actually the case, but thought it was worth putting it out there. I also am not sure what we do with this information if it is correct. We don't have any actions that could stop them.

Going against this theory is Valley's statement that he had to kill the Warden and the guards. Unless there are tasks to fulfil that would allow us to kill them, then that statement would lead us to think that the warden and guards need to be among players 1-18.

Another fly in the ointment about the guards - Valley said he needed to kill the warden and his guards (plural). MITO's note on recruitment said we had killed the guards. Was Chaos the only one? Was he the player who sat apart and had his own win conditions?

It could be the case that we have already lost the players we need to nensure we can escape. However, I am sure MITO would have built in options for us still to succeed if key players were killed off early. I can't see us having a game where it is impossible to win from early in the game if the wrong players die, only going through the motions until everyone is dead.

MITO said last night that solving the mystery of the escapee killings is vital to our chances of success...

I think there are four key things we need to do immediately to stand any chance of rescuing this game:

1. Solve the mystery of the escapee deaths and work out how they relate to oyr chances of success.
2. Work out why locations and directions are key to the game and our chances of escape.
3. As a bare minimum, make sure that we lynch one of the acolyte team tonight (if any of the above is true we might just be looking for acolytes - and possibly a recruited guard)
4. Challenge any notions we have about town reads so far. We have killed off all of the 'suspicious' players (all bat DPP, Chaos and ACS were innocent). It is almost certain that at least one of our strong town reads is a bad guy playing well. There is also the possibility of recruitment to take into account which also makes town reads dangerous.

 

Another clue from last night that I feel is important. The deaths of Mikey and Style say this...

Why were their prisoner numbers cut from their jumpsuits? Bearing in mind the ritualistic nature of these killings I think this could be very significant. Do these players go to an alternative dead team? I have no way of investigating this, so its over to you lot to speculate....

 

Nice work Neville, i agree that it was definitely the right call to reveal your role and this info to us. Also the right call to protect yourself from now on as you're our most powerful source of info it seems.

as you say we need to figure out the exploration aspect, and help you solve the killings if possible if we want to escape.

I dont want others to reveal their roles, but if anyone has further info because of their role or abilities you need to get that info out in the public domain somehow. Either post it as speculation or a wild theory so you don't give yourself away, but if we dont escape then we lose even if we manage to kill the bad guys.

 

OP says mafia win if they are majority team left AND we don't escape. So if we figure out the escape riddles then it will give us big clues as to who have been trying to stop us from escaping via their votes.

Just a thought, do you think we could vote for the remaining non player in the lynch? Worth a shot to see if mito allows it...

 

this site crashed from 6am to 8am.

it is running quite slow.

 

Agree role reveals. Nev doing it is fine because he's given us a lot of info. However, not everyone should do it because there is a dead board team. If the dead board can still win then they could be looking for certain players/roles imo

 

I don't know whether to or

 

u know what u have to do lads...remember ive been guiding u every day....i see dead people....

bye G

see you tonight g with the other dead people