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TWGWTDT
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If there was a biology connection to a virus that kills the innocent I guess I would feel as strong as I do about male on male intercourse
My View, so much **** happens tp people. God needs to keep practising until he gets it right, because so far things are not going well.
If God created everything in six days he'd be able to put everything right with one swish of his magic wand!
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I feel the biggest evil in the UK is anxiety and the stress that comes with that ..[/QUOTE]
Those words click with me. Why so much anxiety in the UK, when we see how much worse people have it in huge areas of the world?
I feel the biggest evil in the UK is anxiety and the stress that comes with that ..[/QUOTE]
Those words click with me. Why so much anxiety in the UK, when we see how much worse people have it in huge areas of the world?
TWGWTDT
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Those words click with me. Why so much anxiety in the UK, when we see how much worse people have it in huge areas of the world?[/QUOTE]
I do 18 days in France each month at the moment and the transition into the UK each time is getting worse
It starts at the airport where you find a incredible UK anxiety and massive amounts of stress and worry ... Its shameful for a country that prides itself on a so called British spirit
People in the UK are becoming very boring and don't stop bloody moaning. When the plane touches down everyone stands up and pushes to the quene moaning about anyone who has paid for quicker boarding they then start moaning about people getting off too slowly or what happened the other night moan about the French getting their plane unloaded first
Then the ordeal of hand luggage
I carry nothing but had a Mac laptop bag with a few things in it
A UK man opened up the overhead storage and removed my bag because he had no room five rows back. Of course that was a no go and in my black and white way he was told to **** right off . I then had 4 rows of people chewing my fat behind me as the man moaned non stop about the size of the plane the fact that his oversized suitcase won't fit and how I should of let him take my bag out. The coffee was cold , England was cold, they had to walk off the plane etc etc ... I paid £6.50 for my flight so I have to laugh
I was out of there in record time only to face another batch moaning on the train into London
Heading towards Wimbledon you then get youth trying to tap you up for money or ***s same old faces
I am just as ill moaning about it of course but it's getting worse and people are now bloody sheep
A response to a survey in Europe on Brexit, from a Dutchman:
"If Britain goes we'll be stick with all those losers. Belgium!"
Where is the evidence to say that we are stressed and anxious? It's a perception. Britain came 21st out of 156 in the 'national happiness' rankings. Better than France and Thailand. Not bad.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report
This is a non evidence based generalisation, and probably wrong, but in my experience many people who have chosen to live most of or all of their time abroad go in one of two ways - either running down the 'old country' at every opportunity or the opposite, bigging it up to a ridiculous extent. It probably says more about the individual than any of the nations involved. So you get the Pommie emigrants to Australia going on about the weather and the size of the ****ing prawns compared to poor wet England with its tiny shrimps, and the 'wenwis' from South Africa and Zimbabwe going on about 'when we lived in .....we had a massive house and 10 servants etc' compared to the hutch in Basildon they have now. I have no doubt that their views are completely sincere.
There is good and bad about everywhere. Personally I enjoy the differences. There is absolutely nothing better than simply wandering around a foreign city for me.
"If Britain goes we'll be stick with all those losers. Belgium!"
Those words click with me. Why so much anxiety in the UK, when we see how much worse people have it in huge areas of the world?[/QUOTE]
Where is the evidence to say that we are stressed and anxious? It's a perception. Britain came 21st out of 156 in the 'national happiness' rankings. Better than France and Thailand. Not bad.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report
This is a non evidence based generalisation, and probably wrong, but in my experience many people who have chosen to live most of or all of their time abroad go in one of two ways - either running down the 'old country' at every opportunity or the opposite, bigging it up to a ridiculous extent. It probably says more about the individual than any of the nations involved. So you get the Pommie emigrants to Australia going on about the weather and the size of the ****ing prawns compared to poor wet England with its tiny shrimps, and the 'wenwis' from South Africa and Zimbabwe going on about 'when we lived in .....we had a massive house and 10 servants etc' compared to the hutch in Basildon they have now. I have no doubt that their views are completely sincere.
There is good and bad about everywhere. Personally I enjoy the differences. There is absolutely nothing better than simply wandering around a foreign city for me.
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And according to the bible the sun wasn't created until the fourth day....erm Houston we have a problem
should the Germans be threatening us with punitive trade tariffs if we are set free from the chains of Europe?
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I reckon with what they are witnessing with the new immigrants from the Muslim world, it's the Aussies now doing all the whining
I do 18 days in France each month at the moment and the transition into the UK each time is getting worse
It starts at the airport where you find a incredible UK anxiety and massive amounts of stress and worry ... Its shameful for a country that prides itself on a so called British spirit
People in the UK are becoming very boring and don't stop bloody moaning. When the plane touches down everyone stands up and pushes to the quene moaning about anyone who has paid for quicker boarding they then start moaning about people getting off too slowly or what happened the other night moan about the French getting their plane unloaded first
Then the ordeal of hand luggage
I carry nothing but had a Mac laptop bag with a few things in it
A UK man opened up the overhead storage and removed my bag because he had no room five rows back. Of course that was a no go and in my black and white way he was told to **** right off . I then had 4 rows of people chewing my fat behind me as the man moaned non stop about the size of the plane the fact that his oversized suitcase won't fit and how I should of let him take my bag out. The coffee was cold , England was cold, they had to walk off the plane etc etc ... I paid £6.50 for my flight so I have to laugh
I was out of there in record time only to face another batch moaning on the train into London
Heading towards Wimbledon you then get youth trying to tap you up for money or ***s same old faces
I am just as ill moaning about it of course but it's getting worse and people are now bloody sheep[/QUOTE]
For someone who complains about people complaining you don't half complain a lot!
Important week for the UK. Cameron has set the bar incredibly low in his requests from the EU, and it's quite possible by Friday, we'll find he's failed to jump it (the East European's having tripped him on his run up).
If he doesn't hold a cabinet meeting on Saturday (to report, and thereafter, release eurosceptic ministers from the current gag), he'll have two days unopposed to start grooming the British people to accept the Emperor's New Clothes. He's calling on Obama to come over and lecture us too, that we should vote to stay in, because it would be incredibly inconvenient for the US otherwise, and they might have to learn to speak French.
This is personal for Cameron. His career, his legacy, are tied to persuading the Brits to be tied to the sinking ship of the EU. It will be interesting to see which ministers put career before country, and become his lickspittles in the forthcoming referendum debate
If he doesn't hold a cabinet meeting on Saturday (to report, and thereafter, release eurosceptic ministers from the current gag), he'll have two days unopposed to start grooming the British people to accept the Emperor's New Clothes. He's calling on Obama to come over and lecture us too, that we should vote to stay in, because it would be incredibly inconvenient for the US otherwise, and they might have to learn to speak French.
This is personal for Cameron. His career, his legacy, are tied to persuading the Brits to be tied to the sinking ship of the EU. It will be interesting to see which ministers put career before country, and become his lickspittles in the forthcoming referendum debate
If he honestly believes that it's better to stay in, then it's right he should campaign for that. Don't forget that he's not a Labour MP, so desperation to make a name and stay in the job isn't necessarily his motivation by definition.
Personally, I think it'll become a vote either against the 'unknowns' of leaving, or a vote against the 'migrant invasion'. Either way, the vote will most likely be driven and controlled by fear-mongers, and so I'm trying to avoid listening to any of the extreme views that will be thrown around in the next few months. Better to step back and think before voting without letting other people's extremes of emotion and rhetoric get in the way of a sensible, considered choice either way.
I think you're right not to be swayed by extremists on either side. The issue will split Tories and Labour alike. I thought the German eurosceptic Labour MP, Gisela Stuart spoke a lot of sense on Andrew Marr yesterday. She said what people have to remember is that the EU will not stay as it is. The Euro countries will get closer and form a powerful block - led by Germany. The UK will be heavily marginalised. I cannot see why UK voters would want to buy into that.
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Exactly.
Forget immigration, which is a big enough problem. The Euro zone are going to form a closer union than ever, and as we don't have the Euro (thank God!), Britain would be marginalised.
We need to leave this madcap project and be in charge of our own destiny again.
Won't Britain be marginalised even more from the Euro zone out of the EU and in some kind of Norwegian agreement with it? At least they have to think 'how will this play with the U.K.' now.
In reply to Stan's point:
We aren't Norway, we're one of the biggest economies in the world.
The EU sells more to us than we sell to them, so a tit for tat trade war is not in their interest
Europe is not the only market, indeed, it's a dwindling market for UK trade
"How will this play with the UK?" won't even feature in the 19 country-Euroblock's thinking after a YES in the UK referendum. We'll be locked in and have to follow orders. We'll be at our weakest point since 1066 imho
We aren't Norway, we're one of the biggest economies in the world.
The EU sells more to us than we sell to them, so a tit for tat trade war is not in their interest
Europe is not the only market, indeed, it's a dwindling market for UK trade
"How will this play with the UK?" won't even feature in the 19 country-Euroblock's thinking after a YES in the UK referendum. We'll be locked in and have to follow orders. We'll be at our weakest point since 1066 imho