WJ. Cellino (as usual) has taken legal proceedings against the FL TV deal, all parties until now were bound by a confidentiality clause. As I've said collective bargaining is what makes English football competitive and marketable.
Why would anyone believe what Cellino puts out via the club? He is hardly the standard bearer & bastion of honesty and integrity.
Hey'up LoL,...........mind if I have a crack at replying to your question to Jock, Bare in mind that Jock, and others may have the same, similar or different reasons for their faith in Cellino, which may also have varying levels. I think it's common knowledge amongst the Cellino for's and against that Harvey hates Cellino, and probably Leeds, after all, he was Bates puppet and dick sucker for a while. Harvey apparently had a Malaysian consortium/group wanting to buy Leeds United, but Cellino gazumped him, and other English/Yorkshire consortiums, this obviously prevented Harvey getting his backhanders, or whatever he may have been promised on purchase of Leeds United, so, as we've all seen and heard, the battle between Cellino and Harvey began, and is, it seems, continual. Cellino paid money out of his own pocket to pay the players, on more than one occasion before he even bought LUFC, GFH refused to put any more money into LUFC, had Cellino not done what he did, for whatever reason/s, meant we would've been sinking a lot faster, we were in dires. Around that time there was talk about going into admin, going bust, being booted from league into conference league etc, Cellino's actions helped prevent that happening, if in fact it was to become the final outcome. I personally respected Cellino for what he did, it enabled us to continue playing football in championship, and further more, allowed the fans to continue supporting Leeds in Championship. In short, he was left a lot of problems created by Bates and GFH, let's not forget Bates hated Leeds United and he slowly dismantled it bit by bit by selling it off; remember Cellino saying "Leeds United don't even own the chairs we sit on" or something along those lines. Cellino sacked a lot of staff, it caused controversy, but along the way, by making such decisions, and by negotiating and renegotiating Cellino has steadied our ship, shrunk our debt, got rid of our deadwood (that many were calling for) and reduced our wage bill (that many were calling for), now, many of those people are now complaining he's not spending enough.....do we need to go back to what we were?...inbetween, he had the embargo, which he was not the cause of, but, because of how he did things, we were able to come out of the embargo early. I also admire Cellino for the way he's prepared to take on Harvey and Co when the need arises. What we should remember, and recognise is, when Cellino takes on Harvey and Co for anything to do with LUFC, he's also sticking up for, and defending LUFC with the betterment of the club in mind, but I'll admit, there may be a smidgen of personal agenda thrown in, but who cares. I think Cellino is well aware how much Harvey dislikes him, and Leeds United. There's no evidence to support the notion that Cellino is bleeding the club for his own benefit, so if people want to believe that scandal, that's entirely up to them. Cellino came to England with the intentions of getting into English football, you don't bleed a club dry with those intentions, and we were the second choice, I believe he tried with WHU a couple of years earlier and didn't succeed. Before Cellino bought Leeds, many fans were calling for a multi millionaire or Billionaire to buy us and steady the ship, their wishes were granted, on both counts. Many fans complained about how some of our telly matches are being rescheduled for Sky's benefit, now Cellino is making a stand they're trying to gang up on him, the only thing that makes sense is the amount of hypocrisy shown by some fans and the media. I don't care about what happened before Cellino bought Leeds, Boats, Jeeps, Tax evasion etc, it was before Leeds time and at that level, all rich British Football club owners/consortium's are guilty of similar, it's the way they do things, and business. Leeds United have arguably the best fans in Britain but, many are impatient, and/or gullible and full of hypocrisy, while also being easily lead it seems. Cellino is no Saint, I don't agree with everything he says and does, but it's not a reason to obsessively hate him. I like Cellino, and have faith in him because of what he has done for our club/team so far, how he stands up for the club and, as Chippy mentioned, if Cellino believes he has a 1% chance of winning, he goes for it, but I'm sure he knows he can't win'em all. I'd rather have Cellino than another Bates, GFH, Ridsdale or Krasner, out of that lot, Cellino is way ahead imo. Those who obsessively hate Cellino will never open their eyes to the good he has done for LUFC, it goes against their personal agenda, they just want to hate him. There you have it LoL, my reasons for having faith in Cellino, and as Jock said, he may be a nutter, but he's our nutter.......
He don't care about Leeds, he wanted to be West Ham's nutter and only bought us after failing to buy them, and again at forest and the wendies. he was jumping ship from Italian footie because he had milked every last Euro from Caligari and left the car crash for others to sort out. Without writing a book on it: How much do you think Cellino has reduced the debt by in two years? Do you understand what restructuring debt means? Do you know that we need and average of 25,000 through the gates each game to balance the books? Can you see a problem given the first three questions? Then: Was pie tax a good thing to do, "topunish the fans"? Ditto..... Seperating our own fans in the South Stand? Where has the McCormack, Smith and Byram money gone? I will answer the last one Why would the opinions of someone who hasn't contribute to the club in at least five years matter? Go to games if you want to support the club and it's owner. At least we can rerspect opinions then.
You show weakness by continually scraping the barrel Chippy, you're going backwards. If you read up on Cellinos history at Cagliari, you'll see how much money he spent on buying players, and how he got'em to the UEFA Cup semis once. Without writing a book on it: How much do you think Cellino has reduced the debt by in two years? Enough to steady the ship and make Leeds United more comfortable financially. Do you understand what restructuring debt means? Yes, moving it around, renegotiating, negotiating better deals. Do you know that we need and average of 25,000 through the gates each game to balance the books? Do you know that as an exact fact, or just guessing, but no, I don't know the exact figures Can you see a problem given the first three questions? Yes........Chippy's obsessive hatred for Cellino. Then: Was pie tax a good thing to do, "topunish the fans"? No, but I have mentioned I don't agree with everything Cellino says and does, lots of times. Ditto..... Seperating our own fans in the South Stand? No, see above. Where has the McCormack, Smith and Byram money gone? What was left, probably straight into bank. Do the calculations before you ask that question, and try to remember the distribution procedure at Leeds, or, ask Cellino. I will answer the last one Why would the opinions of someone who hasn't contribute to the club in at least five years matter? Firstly, why wouldn't anyone's opinions count, that statement is obviously aimed at all those who can't get to matches for whatever valid reasons, and there's lot's of us. Secondly, are you absolutely certain I haven't contributed to Leeds United in last five years, you seem to know a lot for an old bugger. Go to games if you want to support the club and it's owner. At least we can rerspect opinions then.[/QUOTE] Are you the new owner of LUFC now chippy, are you trying to do what you accuse Cellino of doing. I personally couldn't give a damn whether you rerspect (respect) my opinions or not, they're mine, not yours. Don't read what I write if you don't respect my opinions, NOT606 give you that choice you know, and, there's more than you on this forum, you ain't the king pin on here, so save your bottom of the barrel scraping orders for your dog or budgie. Why do you persist in humiliating yourself from time to time Chippy.
Are you the new owner of LUFC now chippy, are you trying to do what you accuse Cellino of doing. I personally couldn't give a damn whether you rerspect (respect) my opinions or not, they're mine, not yours. Don't read what I write if you don't respect my opinions, NOT606 give you that choice you know, and, there's more than you on this forum, you ain't the king pin on here, so save your bottom of the barrel scraping orders for your dog or budgie. Why do you persist in humiliating yourself from time to time Chippy. [/QUOTE] Well done you got two right and you kept it short for once. If everyone had the same approach to supporting the club as you there would be no club..
I don't hate the man or like him for that matter as I don't know him, but previous convictions, particularly for "false accounting", means I'm suspicious / wary of taking him at face value. It's more that to me, very little has changed from previous regimes, no more ambition for promotion, he's sold players for good money and replaced with cheaper options. I've never said he was "bleeding the club dry" but I can only assume the lack of a credible challenge maybe that the current status quo brings enough revenue for him, or he is out of his depth because he is trying to run a huge club like a small provincial Italian one. Because he is better than the two previous owners doesn't make him a good one. Still I admire your faith.
He didn't. It was Paul Bell, our Executive Director. Cellino wasn't at the meeting, so couldn't comment. In putting out this statement, Bell leaves the path clear for the press to tear him to ribbons if it's untrue. Lots of Chairmen would be calling the rags seconds after reading it if it was untrue.
Perhaps so, but not one of the 71 other attendees have rebutted it. Only the Cellino haters - who weren't there!
You do understand that it's potentially subject to judicial process so can't be commented upon further without risking contempt of court don't you...... Can't believe someone who goes week in week out is happy with cellinos road show.....
Judicial process has got bugger all to do with it! Didn't stop the Chairmen before, did it? It was only a meeting, and if our club has misrepresented what happened, then you don't need to consider your legal position to rebut it - if you're right! So far, not one of the 71 have taken that option.
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