Off Topic SUNDERLAND SACK JOHNSON

Personally i think there is a world of difference between sleeping with a 15 year old and an 8 year old mate.
Couldn't give a **** what a bunch of ignorant criminals in prison think.
250 years ago a lot of girls would have been married and probably pregnant with their first child at 15.
Being sexually attracted to an 8 year old is ****ing sick as ****!!
I have seen 15 year old girls that could easily pass for at least 18, maybe 20.
World of difference mate.
When I was 19 I nearly slept with a girl who was 14, that I had met in a club, till her mate let slip she was 14, and of course I got the **** out of there, because it is illegal and I didn't want to go to prison, but to put a situation like that equal to a guy raping an 8/9 year old is ******ed.

 

Yes, he is a sex offender.
He committed a sexual act that was criminal.

 

Not grammatically correct either I accept lol

 

Against a child.

 

Yes, by the laws definition, she is a child.

Still not a *****phile though.
Because by redlads definition, I would be a *****phile, because when 19, I was sexually attracted to a girl who was 14.
She did not look ****ing 14!!

Also by that definition, every single German, Austrian and Italian is a "*****", since the age of consent in their countries is 14 I believe.

 

Whereas he decided to go ahead. What age would have made him stop do you think?

Obviously not the same with regards to legal or psychiatric definitions but culturally we have decided to cast them in the same moral arc.

Splitting hairs over definitions sounds to much like defence (I'm not suggesting you are doing that) it sounds like the type of justification these guys play out in their head.

The definitions are irrelevant outside the specialised fields.

If it was your daughter would you make any split between him grooming her in the way he did when she was 8 10 or 15?

Obviously so we do not end up in pitch fork vigilantism the law has to be more dispassionate and the psychiatrists have to label and treat the specifics.

 

I just think it trivialises and makes a mockery of the term, if everyone who sleeps with a girl under the legal age of consent is labelled a "*****", does that mean if Adam Johnson got on a plane and went to Italy he is all of a sudden no longer a *****.

He is a sex offender, he slept with an underage girl, call him a sexual predator even, but he is NOT a *****phile.
*****phile's are sick sick sick ****ing people.

 

Not suggesting or comparing him to saville but Jimmys victims ranged from very young children to adults.

These kind of offenders can progress the longer they get away with it and certain types of offenders obtain the sexual gratification from their position of power or the illicit nature of the contact rather than the specific appearance of the victim.

Either way Johnson has been caught on what seems is his first offence and hopefully for the public at large it was indeed an aborration.

Quite a few *****philes are married with children with an official history of adult relationships until they are uncovered.

Its why we have a range of laws and psychiatric treatment to deal with each specific case.

 

Or to put it an easier way..when he gets put would you let him babysit your daughter be she 2 to 15?

I wouldn't personally test that lol

 

I wouldn't let ANY criminal babysit my daughter, regardless of the offence, but especially a sexual one.
If a guy raped a 30 year old woman I wouldn't let him babysit my daughter (who is 5 btw).

I am not defending what Adam Johnson did, he should rightfully go to jail.
I just object to the blanket labelling of all sex offenders as *****philes.

 

I know you weren't mate and I do understand what you are saying..just doesn't bother me as much just because I know the law does differentiate.

What name the general public call him doesn't matter to me...

We all think he's a scum bag.

 

Who cares about definitions. She was only 15 and he is in his late 20's and took full advantage of his situation of being her favourite player. Pretty much identical to these teachers and students cases where they have a crush on their favourite teacher or something. Whether she looked 16/17 or whatever doesn't matter, he still knew she was only 15, he asked her ffs and then looked it up on Google. *****phile no, but he is clearly ****ed up

 

Nothing wrong with debating all this guys but just be careful. It's a tricky subject and at the moment all is fine just it can offend and upset people so be mindful of what's being said.

 

I'm sure he has a choice of any number of women closer to his age range, on any given Saturday night should he wish to have an affair.

The fact he went to such effort for a girl that young, screams to me this was his first venture into underage sex. Had he been successful here, it would very likely have led to other, younger girls.

We're hanging too much on the number 15 instead of looking at the fact he's choosing a girl that young. He's a *****phile.

 

Interesting thought ... I'm sure some of these sick ****s 'test the water' so to speak with a borderline victim so they can justify it to themselves that 'it's ok she's nearly legal' and use that as some sort of defence if caught, then if that encounter goes well for them they gravitate towards younger and younger kids as they allow the urge to fully realise itself within them, like a gateway drug I guess

 

There's a few factors - the big one being means and opportunity. How is he realistically going to get access to a 12 year old, for example? Then there's his high profile to consider so he's not going to do anything drastic like some of the everyday *****'s. A 15 yr old girl out on the town is much more likely and that's his first and most easiest opportunity to venture in.

I've seen at least one case personally where the bloke started with a girl around 15, then about 6/7 years later tried to hunt online for girls much younger.

 

Through this girl he's messed around with maybe ?? Probably has younger mates or acquaintances and that he can get her to introduce him to

 

One way *****'s are known to groom is to have a target and then get to know (pay greater attention to) their friends and/or family in order to indirectly have contact with said target. BUT they'll build that individual relationship in secret. So if he carried on with this girl and then saw someone else in her social circle he liked, he would have used that to have that contact, but then built up a relationship with the younger girl in secret.

 

I'd normally agree with Bod here but he knew how old she was and did it anyway. He deserves the label

 

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