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The trial of Adam Johnson (part 2)

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  1. Brian Storm

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    It wasn't even a rumor. Just people exploring possibilities, except maybe Billy <laugh> All sorts have been said. Mindless speculation would be more appropriate term imo.
     
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  2. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Yeah that didn't look right to me either re-reading after posting <laugh>
     
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  3. Tel (they/them)

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    I'd say it was more of a rumour based on the amount of people who were feeding off it on twitter.

    The volume of (insert favourite derogatory word here) who were still backing him with statements like "Was he supposed to ask her for ID?" on twitter AFTER he admitted grooming her was unfuckingbelievable!
     
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    She may be a slag - not for anyone who does't know her to judge though (and I am in no way vindicating what has been done by Johnson - far far from it) Some 15 year olds are, as you say, impressionable. Others are not - they are manipulative and conceited and willing to do anything to get somewhere. I still reckon this was a case of "he wouldn;t pay up so I'll go to the police" (again, I'm not advocating what was done but I reckon she was hoping for a payoff and he called her bluff - bet he wishes he'd paid her now if that is the case!)

    I know a number of 15 year olds that drink in places I go to and are complete slags - more sexual partners than me and I'm 40 and led a very good, play the field life before my second marriage. (Anyone remember Lorri Mattix of David Bowie fame - a 15 year old who used to sleep with famous people - obviously it was different back in the 70's but that doesn;t make it right) or the 15 year old who was chatted up by Gazza and told him how old she was - Gazza asked her Dad for permission and he was delighted and allowed him to go out with her
     
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  5. It's_all_Greek_to_me

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  6. Brian Storm

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    Oh, I thought you we on about on here.

    Wasn't it the Sun who relieved her Identity only for the CPS ****ed up any chance of suing the rag? If she'd been protected properly she'd have gotten no online abuse.
     
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  7. Brian Storm

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    Very interesting the way @RobDavSky and @skymartinbrunt are reporting this.The contrast between the two are light years apart.
     
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    Knowing **** all about her you label her as money grabbing?

    All we know as fact is that she's been the victim of grooming and that leads you to the conclusion that she's in it for the coin?
     
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  9. It's_all_Greek_to_me

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    Following Martin Brunt on Twitter now.
     
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  10. Tel (they/them)

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    I wasn't even aware that she was abused.

    Some lads will back a scumbag until they're blue in the face, just because they think every girl who jumps on a cock is a slag.
     
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  11. Joelinton's Right Foot

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    I don't doubt for a second that there are 15 year olds out there who know all about things I haven't even heard of - and I'm late 40s! However, not every 15 year old who goes to a club or pub is a slag (and I know that's not what you're saying). I think it's also true that not all 15 year olds who try and act older and more experienced necessarily are.

    I used to go out drinking in my teens (it was easier then). Our whole group (boys and girls) would do it. We wanted to get drunk and be 'grown up'. I had good parents, but they didn't always know where I was. I would stay at a friends house and he would stay at mine. We would all boast about things we had done, but if the rest of my group was anything like me, then most of them had never happened.
     
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  12. Billy Death

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    I wouldn't.
    I have a lady in my life that I love deeply & I'd never do that to her.
     
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  13. Tel (they/them)

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    Going from the prosecution statement, which I'm more inclinded to believe since he's already admitted to being a lying ****, it looks like she didn't even want to get him in trouble never mind ask him for money, I bet the poor girl is in bits having idolised this bloke for so long and it having come to this.
     
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  14. It's_all_Greek_to_me

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    ....and that is the key. She was trying to protect him. Not the actions of a money grabbing, attention seeking slag. A normal schoolgirl who was taken advantage of by a predatory sex offender. It looks like Johnson has not only lied to Police, but also to Sunderland FC, the fans and his Girlfriend. I wasn't expecting any of this.
     
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  15. Tel (they/them)

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    ****ing hell Billy, what a way to piss on my joke.

    I'm a one woman man myself and that wasn't mean to be literally accurate.

    Hell even if I was single I wouldn't hump anybody where that rotten ****ing rat has been.
     
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  16. Disco down under

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    You could be right. Point was though that saying **** like what Marcus just said without a spec of evidence or reason for thinking it is just ridiculous.

    It would come out in court anyway if she'd tried shaking him down.
     
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  17. Joelinton's Right Foot

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    You could well be right, but i really hope his lies have at least shattered any illusions to save her from any misguided pain of getting him into trouble, and now knows he has got himself into trouble.
     
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  18. Brian Storm

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    Over for the day. CPS done. There's nowt been said that's related to the charges he's plead not guilty to. Strange considering the CPS opening statement has finished.

    He'll get a suspended sentance lads just you watch. He's pleaded guilty to the only charges the CPS has case on clearly. I'm half expecting the remaining charges to be dropped and all the attention focus on the grooming side. Really doubt he'll get jail time. :(
     
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  19. Billy Death

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    Yes & I was one of them.
    In hindsight for that I feel bad.
    At least I can admit it though.
     
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  20. It's_all_Greek_to_me

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    I think it's circumstantial evidence on the sex charge at this time, unless they have something they are using later on.
     
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