Celtic songbook
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I'd say it was clearly more offensive and narrow-minded than pure hypocrisy. You can call me a sophist if you want
I also entirely stand by that statement.
No, that fans leave politics at the door. Then they are perfectly free to donate to whatever charitable organisation and belong to any political group they wish. As long as they don't bring it to the game.
If the club wish to participate by having a poppy on the shirt then you're entirely free to not attend/watch said game and make your protest known in a reasonable fashion, not in a way that is detrimental to the reputation of the club and it's fans.
Also people are free to sing whatever songs they like in places where they are not banned. For those who wish to sing them at football matches in Scotland; they can no longer do this. End of.
Ok then, but as a business sometimes the club have to be hypocritical in order to keep not just fans but also investors, media and associations on-side. That is called rationality.
No it's not, it's called hypocrisy you ****in' idiot. What a ****in' plonker you are sonny.
You're getting worse ER. Now you're attempting to WUM me with childish crap like this. Yoghurt+Spastic=ER
If the board and the Green Brigade come to agreement, and keep it. We can tell everyone to go to hell like
Mr Kelly did regarding our friends Hibs trying to make us remove the tricolour.
All Celtic have to do is sit quietly and wait for History to repeat itself as Rangers will come to our aid, and just
as Rangers are the reason we can fly the tricolour now, so will we be able to sing all the agreed songs and lyrics.
Mr Kelly did regarding our friends Hibs trying to make us remove the tricolour.
All Celtic have to do is sit quietly and wait for History to repeat itself as Rangers will come to our aid, and just
as Rangers are the reason we can fly the tricolour now, so will we be able to sing all the agreed songs and lyrics.
That's not Wumming. What part of hypocrisy do you not get Venom - even one of your own is belittling you for it.
Hoops, the GB have no say in all of this, they don't speak for me and I don't know anyone who they can reasonably claim to represent.
Aye because I care what some Celtic fan thinks on a football forum. How will I go on with EspaniaCelt and Rebel not liking me? Get back to your yoghurt
I find it extremely irritating when the poppy is called a 'political' symbol. It's not and never has been. And it's certainly not a symbol of approval of each and every conflict that the government decided the british army should participate in.
Regardless, the money generated goes to various projects of ex squaddies, a majority having fought at some point in NI against people from my background. I have as much desire to donate to a British Army old boys club as the average British person would have financing an IRA social club. I don't hate them, my missus grew up on various barracks around Europe and Canada as her mother worked for the British army - and I get on fine with all her relatives. I just have no desire to be coerced into official fund raising events for them while simply trying to support my football team.
I don't accept the argument "if you don't like it don't go to Scotland or Celtic park" - I'm a UK citizen, I grew up in the UK and the British soldiers were deployed on active service in the UK. I have every right to protest in any other part of the UK I want.
I'm not saying that I think a football match is necessarily an appropriate place to celebrate remembrance sunday (particularly if it actually isn't celebrated on remembrance sunday itself), but merely that for the vast, vast majority of brits buying a poppy is not a political statement one way or the other. And that a once a year charity event is not particular comparable to singing daft (to put it mildly) songs every week.
), but merely that for the vast, vast majority of brits buying a poppy is not a political statement one way or the other. And that a once a year charity event is not particular comparable to singing daft (to put it mildly) songs every week.
Either it's all good or none of it is good. Our fan base derives itself from a mostly Irish background, the British military have been involved in some nasty conflicts with Ireland - it's not rocket science to see why there will always be tension there. If we are not allowed to vocally support one side in the conflict then we sure as hell shouldn't be forced to pay homage, in the form of minute's silence and financial donations, to the other side.
Mick, no one is forced to wear let alone buy a poppy, I know some see it a political symbol but to me it is not. Like it or not Celtic FC is a part of Scottish society and if we distance ourselves from the poppy we distance ourselves from the vast majority of people in the UK. They for the most part have never seen it as political and any attempt by Celtic to ban it from Parkhead would be seen as tantamount to treason.
To me it's not about charity, it's simply about remembering the dead in all wars, especially in the two World Wars.
I'm not asking that Celtic bans the wearing of the Poppy - I think it should be an individual's free choice. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of holding a minutes silence and collecting money for the British fallen while banning songs which sing about the Irish fallen.
I fully understand how many people appreciate the sacrifice many young men gave to protect their country from foreign aggression during the World Wars, but unlike most British people I don't think that support of the British military and it's fallen is an unquestionable moral absolute - especially when many times Britain and it's army was the foreign aggressor itself.