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It Shall Be Jose!

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by cytrax, Dec 21, 2015.

  1. theevilreddevil

    theevilreddevil Well-Known Member

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    So we agreed a deal for Jose, day later we are talking to Pochettino and now Jose is telling friends he will be taking over in the summer. Gotta love the papers
     
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  2. King Shergar

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    Hiring Mourinho now would just be a massive step backwards for the whole philosophy that our players have been getting used to the last couple of seasons.

    Look at the way we went to Chelsea, a team Mourinho built and outplayed them for long periods of the game. We may not have got the result we wanted but we proved we are technically better than they are, and that they can only stop us by parking the bus. Even when they won the league last year, and where managed by Mourinho we outplayed them at the Bridge.

    Mourinho coaches teams to win ugly, and at all costs. He doesn't coach them to play football the right way. Although LVGs philosophy is too defensive, the basics of his philosophy are correct, and it just needs tweaking a little bit. That's why I'd rather us go for someone like Pochettinho or even Martinez who can build on what the players have learnt under LVG. Managers who play football the right way.
     
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  3. Treble

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    Except the football at Real Madrid was far from ugly. I'm sure he adapts to the club he manages.

    I'm also surprised you think the way we're playing now is down to LVG's philosophy.
     
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  4. Chief

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    Are you seriously suggesting an half decent first hour against a team in complete turmoil then frantic defending for the final ten minutes is proof that this so called philosophy is working? Seriously?

    I'd also like to point out that you have frequently said that only proven winners in both the domestic and European game are up to and fit for the United job.

    Neither of the names you mention are anywhere near being that.

    To suggest Martinez is nothing short of laughable. Especially when considered against his Everton predecessor, who was also deemed unworthy of the United job.
     
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  5. Stan

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    The way we've played in the last couple of games simply proves that the philosophy is bullshit and has been a complete failure.
     
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  6. Stan

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    Double post so...
     
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  7. Chief

    Chief Northern Simpleton Forum Moderator

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    He's changed tack, that's for definite.

    No way on earth can it be claimed that it was all leading to this (the process!!!) as he could have changed the football accordingly any time from half way into LAST season.

    No, the change is against his alleged philosophy and, surprise surprise, it's been ok so far.

    I will, and have always, stick up for van Gaal on a couple of issues at least. The squad is better and some of the rubbish has been dispatched from it. He also gives youngsters a chance. Sometimes enforced but others not so much and that is a positive.

    The negatives still outweigh any positives though.
     
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  8. King Shergar

    King Shergar Well-Known Member

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    First of all Chelsea are not in turmoil now, since Hiddink took charge theyre the only unbeaten side in the division, they even beat Arsenal away. So the fact we outplayed them for long periods proves not all is wrong in our team.

    I have said we should go for a proven winner, but who is available who is a proven winner? We stupidly didn't go for Pep, so the only other alternative is Mourinho, and I just don't like that option.

    Even though they are both defensive LVGs way of playing is polar opposite to Mourinhos. One is very possession based and the other is defend and counter.

    LVGs philosophy definately needs a lot of tweaking, but I think the team has learnt a lot about how to play possession football, so we should go for another possession based manager who'll attack more.

    Going for Mourinho would be like half building a house and then ripping it down and starting again, and building a completely different one. It'll set us back even further in our quest to get back to the top.
     
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  9. King Shergar

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    Double post
     
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  10. Diego

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    Or just sticking a roof on and calling it a bungalow :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  11. Stan

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    How can anyone say Chelsea aren't in turmoil because they've gone defensive and drawn a few games?

    Greatest manager in their history engineered a sacking and huge pay off
    Captain talking out against the club
    Best players openly angling for a move
    Manager they've been stalking for years signs for City and takes fans with him
    Out of Europe for the foreseeable future
    Bankrupt as they need to get to the CL QF to break even

    They're a ****ing shambles!
     
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  12. Diego

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    How more defensive could they go <yikes>
     
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  13. Stan

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    True.

    I do get baffled by the Chavettes' belief that it's just a one season blip and they'll be back to challenging for the World Cup in no time.

    It's like they're completely oblivious to the fact that they are a rudderless, managerless, captainless shambles at the minute. All the money coming into the game next season further negates their financial advantage as Roman won't fund a loss making club anymore so the other bottom half of the table teams won't be at a disadvantage when it comes to bidding for the Championship players.

    Maybe that's why the City exodus has already begun.
     
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  14. Treble

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    On Wednesday, Spain's El Confidencial report that things have taken a step forward on urgency. It's claimed that Jorge Mendes is arranging the final details via his London offices, with lawyers working on a 'maze of clauses' that will be included in a deal tying Mourinho to Manchester United until 2019. Things are being finalised and resolved, and it sounds like, once the lawyers have done their bit, there's nothing in the way of announcing the deal, should Manchester United wish to.

    Mourinho will be paid €20m per year for taking over at Old Trafford, say El Confidencial, which would put him on less than Pep Guardiola at Manchester City. Again, there's no definitive date of takeover set out, but that is likely to depend upon the club and circumstance.

    El Confidencial have a history of getting there first, and a history of scoops, especially with their Real Madrid exclusives.

    In other news...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...d-boss-gears-summer-arrival-Old-Trafford.html :(
     
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  15. King Shergar

    King Shergar Well-Known Member

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    Looking at the season as a whole Chelsea have had a nightmare, but it was more a case of the players not playing for the manager. They are a top side now under Hiddink.

    You put there recent form down to going defensive and getting a few draws. They are unbeaten in 10 matches, and have had plenty of high scoring games. They are a lot more attacking under Hiddink than they where Mourinho.
     
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  16. Treble

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    Why are we talking about chelsea, again? <confused>
     
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  17. Stan

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    They're far from a top side. They play like and get the results of the mid table team they are.

    I don't get what you're on about mate! Mourinho's a **** but it looks like he may become our ****!
     
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  18. King Shergar

    King Shergar Well-Known Member

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    Get real! Half a season of turmoil under a manager the team weren't playing for, hasn't turned them into a bad side. It's still the same players that won the league last year.
     
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  19. Treble

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    They said the same about United in 2013-14. The Chelsea squad are ageing and some do want to leave or have already left. The defence and attack lacks depth. Either way, the man who comes in will want his own players anyway.
     
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  20. armchairblue

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    Totat and utter bollox as per usual........King Shergar's spot on,you know **** all fella!
     
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