Good Morning Everyone, Two more Championship Managers head down the dole queue this morning!!! Rotherham relieved Redders of his duties yesterday afternoon. This was following the Ram making a dramatic u- turn on their employment of Paul Clement. Who deserved it more? Does it prove that Leeds were right to get rid of Redders when they did? Is Evans much better? It is now expected that Redders will go to Barnsley! Thoughts? Leeds are keeping an eye on Watford’s young centre back Tommie Hoban. He has just recovered for a long injury lay-off, and has featured for Watford’s Under-21s a few times since his return. The Hornets are said to rate Hoban highly, and the centre-back would be wise to head out on loan to get some playing time to his name, so he can start next season as part of the first-team squad. Leeds are just one of the clubs named as tracking the 22-year-old, with an eye to signing him on loan during the emergency window. Should we only sign him if we can buy him? Since the introduction of the (EPPP) at the start of the 2012/13 season (Elite Player Performance Plan), one one club (which wasn’t named as club’s only receive their own figures) out of the entire Football League have managed to better Leeds' productivity with young players. Who'd have Redders back at the academy, or do you feel Hart is doing a good job? Strachan is 59 today I remember when he came to the club. Blimey, that makes me feel old!!!
Paul Hart is the man and better than Redders. Redders was never cut out to be a manager and wonder why Rotherham allowed him to bring in players and then sack him a week later? must be more to it espesh id he's tipped to go back to Barnsley. Clement knew he had to get promotion as the club invested a lot of cash and have a high wage bill. Maclaren had them missing out for last 2 seasons so the club thought this season had to happen. They should have stuck with him to see it out now as I feel he would have turned it around. However he already had a good squad but spent a lot and always plays his new expensive players and ignores what he had? could be why he's let himself down. Evans is as good as we can get or afford so pointless swapping unless we get a Macarthy, Pearson or Clement.
Morning all. Tough times for Derby fans who thought they had promotion sewn up and also their wannabe fans. Redders needs to be careful now. At a point in his career where he could easily end up in a football wilderness. His cv is certainly not improving. Hear this morning an American consortium buying Everton for 200m. Makes sense why we cant get anyone to buy our lot. 200m is a snip for and established PL team with their own ground and great squad. Heck, Barkley is worth a quarter of that on his own. Down side for them is the poor record of American owners so far with victimpool, scum and villa all going backwards
Morning all Clement knows his stuff. Strange sacking, be interesting to find out what that was all about! No point of getting a CB on loan if we are just getting him fit for Watford. We have nothing to play for so we may as well be playing our own players and hoping they will gel or learn from each other.
Tough times for Derby indeed - only 15 points above you - not good enough!! Everton for £200M looks a bargain - only 2 years worth of tv money - wonder what is lurking in their accounts. Talking of accounts - did you know that Leeds Utds turnover for Bates last 2 seasons in charge was £31.1M and £32.6M. Cellino's 1st year in charge it was £25.3m and is expected to fall again in your latest accounts even with the increased tv money. Why is it the Ken Bates model could generate so much more? More fans coming through the door because you were more attractive to watch? More sponsorhip because you were worth advertising?
Awkward questions surround Steve Evans but answers can only come from above him. In the midst of another aimless season and the disillusionment caused by it, Massimo Cellino has been conspicuous by his silence. Leeds United’s owner is very much on the scene at Elland Road, no longer subject to a self-imposed ban from the club’s games, but his outlook and his intentions are as unclear as ever. Cellino hovers in the background, aware of pressure coming from different angles but yet to succumb to it. There is much for Cellino to speak about: the state of United’s season and squad after an underwhelming transfer window; the status of his Football League disqualification which, almost four months after the governing body imposed it, has still not taken effect; and the suggestion that he continues to look for a way out of Leeds, fuelled by sightings of him with Steve Parkin, the Yorkshire businessman who has tried and failed to buy a majority share in the club at least twice before. The situation with Cellino’s Football League ban is remarkable, not only because of the time it has taken the governing body to enforce it but because of the confidentiality surrounding it. When Cellino was previously disqualified from running Leeds in 2014 – a penalty incurred after he was found guilty by an Italian court of evading tax owed on a private yacht – the Football League announced the sanction and dealt with an appeal in the space of a month-and-a-half. Even now it cannot say if or when Cellino’s second ban will come into force. Cellino faces a 223-day suspension as owner of United after a judge in Cagliari ruled in June that he had deliberately avoided VAT due on a Range Rover imported by him from the USA. The Football League studied the court’s written judgement and announced on October 19 – the day Cellino sacked and replaced head coach Uwe Rosler with Evans – that the 59-year-old was in breach of its Owners and Directors Test. Cellino appealed on October 28. The Football League will not comment on the delay, apart from reiterating that Cellino will be barred from Elland Road for 223 days if his challenge fails. But the process is believed to have been held up by a separate attempt by Cellino to quash his ban via the Football Association. Cellino has long argued that the FL has no grounds to disqualify him, in part because convictions in Italy are not formally recognised until criminal cases have passed through two stages of appeal. That argument was dismissed by QC Tim Kerr, who overturned the FL’s bid to block Cellino’s takeover of Leeds in April 2014 and has never held sway with the League itself. Shortly after his first ownership ban was imposed, Cellino asked the FA to arbitrate. The Italian, however, is understood to have suspended that process in July of last year following the conclusion of the Range Rover tax case. Sources close to him say he took that decision because he believed the FL would not seek to disqualify him again, despite his fresh conviction. The League’s move in October to bar him for a second time – a penalty which caught Cellino by surprise – is believed to have led him to restart the arbitration process. FA arbitration, detailed in section K of its rules, is confidential. The FA will not even confirm whether Cellino has asked it to arbitrate. An FA spokesman told the YEP: “Rule K is a completely private process and thus we (the FA’s general staff) are never informed of any such motion and certainly could not comment.” Some with experience of FA arbitration say Cellino’s appeal against his 223-day Football League ban cannot take place until the FA has ruled on the dispute first. None involved will say if a date for the conclusion of arbitration has been set or if the process has a fixed timescale. Cellino’s pending disqualification has now been hanging over him and Leeds United for 113 days, with no obvious end in sight. Cellino claims his position has been strengthened by a change to Italian law, downgrading certain offences from criminal to civil. The Football League only has the power to disqualify directors for unspent criminal convictions which represent a “dishonest act”. Before Christmas, a case in which Cellino was accused of failing to pay tax owed on transfers completed during his time as Cagliari owner was dismissed on that basis. Another case, in which Cellino was said to have evaded VAT on a private yacht named Lucky 23, was due to return to court on January 27. That hearing does not appear to have taken place. With so much playing out behind the scenes, Leeds have meandered through Cellino’s second year as owner. Back in April 2014, a few days after his takeover, he predicted that the club would win promotion to the Premier League this season. Saturday’s 1-0 defeat to Nottingham Forest was their 10th of the campaign, pinning United in joint 15th position and allowing the Championship’s top six to break further away. Evans came under pressure after that loss, forced to offer a fresh defence of a transfer window in which Leeds failed to address weaknesses in their squad. “Primarily it never happened because of financial (reasons),” he said, explaining the deals which got away from him. “I don’t make those decisions but when the decision’s made that it’s too much money for the football club, I have to respect that.” According to the ownership statement published on United’s website, Cellino remains in control of an 81 per cent stake at Elland Road and despite the presence of Parkin alongside him at recent matches, shows no sign of relinquishing control. Cellino admitted recently to the YEP that the Italian trust used to fund his original buy-out would not inject further cash into Leeds until his dispute with the Football League was settled. But he declined to discuss his future, or his immediate plans for the club. Rumours of a possible Qatari takeover bid he described as “fairy tales”.
Morning all ... Redders is simply not a manager, only good with kids because they want to learn and progress, very different to a dressing room filled with players being paid loads ... Derby being run by another egotistical chairman who likes to stick his nose into team affairs, and going into dressing room and undermining Clement was beginning of the end ... if Cellino had half a brain he would get rid of Evans now and go and get Clement in, because this guy will become a really good manager ... Evans can't consistently get the best out of our players because his cliches only go so far ... Leeds have delivered some impressive performances this season, so the team can clearly do it, but when Evans insists on playing Wootton at RB for example, it doesn't help at all ... failure to find a system and then build consistency within it is also damaging, and it's laughable that Rayner says they're 4-4-2 disciples and then Evans plays 4-5-1 ... our biggest problem is still Cellino, and we can only hope that the Qatari buyout rumour has substance and the mad clown sells to a billionaire Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
I am usually mate - but then i saw your post that stated you were in a better financial position and wondered where you got that info from
Clement is ****e, dont want him at Leeds. Another manager who needs an expensive squad and still fails.
Afternoon all, I would still rather be in Derby's position with their players. Yes they have a crazy owner who enters the dressing room just like ours. They have an owner who spends big on good quality players, we don't. Clement is he any good? We know Hockaday, Redfearn, Darko and Rosler aren't and Evans could soon be joining that list.
Depends totally on their end of year accounts. If the 25m spent in the summer means theyre losing money hand over fist, thats unsustainable
Anyone else wishes we could spend 25 million and give it a go, at least be exciting instead of the season over already (assuming we don't get dragged further down the table), or are all too frightened by the Ridsdale era?
Evening Doc, would a McCathy, Pearson or Clement improve our team with its current wage structure / financing?
Evening Eire, certainly hasn't worked out for Forest, Villa or similar. Takeovers are really hit n miss. Remember back when GFH were taking over. We were talking about being the next Citeh....
Evening Bucks, well said. Why would Cook or Taylor want to stay with a club with no ambition? Might as well sell them...
