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Man City v Leicester

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Edelman, Feb 6, 2016.

  1. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    You need to engage brain. Talk about not understanding the bleeding obvious. Yes it is good for the league and I never said the big boys "let you" win games. However.............

    Enjoy the season as It wont happen again.

    btw, you have not won anything yet.<ok>
     
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  2. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    or a pundit. <laugh> The only stat that ever matters in each game is the GOALS for & against. <ok>
     
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  3. Bengals Tiger

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    They'll have to catch him first! Maybe when he's a few years older.
     
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  4. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    I for one think he's got a point. I'm not taking anything away from you guys here but if you'd performed to exactly the same level last season, you wouldnt have been top due to Chelsea's excellence. There is normally 1 if not 2 excellent teams but it is the worst Premier League this season in terms of quality ever - simple as. All of the usual suspects are way, way below par but it is to Lester's credit that they've taken full advantage of this situation.

    Which teams from Lester, Arsenal or Spurs who dont win it this season wont win it again for decades. It really is the best chance of any lifetime.
     
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  5. FosseFilberto

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    ... nobody is claiming to have won anything yet .. indeed I doubt many are expecting to have won anything come the end of the season ... but our success is wholly down to having a team that plays to it's strengths in a way that other teams can't cope with ... your logic would suggest that whenever a team wins it is down to the oppositions failings rather than the winning teams qualities ... we've only lost 2 games all season so far .. Arsenal and Liverpool ... they were not very good we were just very bad <laugh> ...
     
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    ... Chelsea were excellent last season ... but in our end of season run during which ee lost 3-1 to them we were 1-0 up at half-time having matched them ... they deservedly went away with all 3 points but that was the only match we lost ... we have come on no end since then and if you are asking whether I think this team might have beaten that excellent Chelsea team on that day I'd have to say that it would have been damn close ...

    Not sure if you have seen this footage - last Weednesday against Liverpool - if you haven't then this is a pretty good barometer of just how far we have come - I have never seen anything like this at Leicester in my lifetime ...

     
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  7. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    FosseFilberto has totally mis-understood my post. Your reply ^^^^^ this is what he should have come up with. However credit to you BCC. Many I spoke to pre-game @ Burnley who were watching the MC-LC game on the concourse were saying the same thing. Man City looked like a relegation team than a title contender. Allowing Huth to score the 2 goals he did said so much about the Blue Moons.

    I also agree with you BCC on your last point. Arsenal IF they beat Leicester on Sunday will be just 2 points behind as will Spurs if they can also win @ Man City on Sunday. For the neutrals it is a good watch though.
     
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    I'm not disputing that whatsoever, I think in any Premier League season even against the best sides there have been in the post 92 era, with the way you are playing you'd be top 7, which is a remarkable achievement. But there is no doubt, and I'm sure you'd 100% agree, it is unprecedented for Man Utd, Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool to all be as bad at the same time as they are now.
     
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    That passage of play was reminiscent of 1970's Brazil - all them little flicks and turns will come off for you when you're top end of the table, as you lot know, next to ****-all comes off when you're down t'other end ............ it's brilliant stuff, enjoy it while it's there Fossie.
     
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  10. Barchullona

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    Yes, I am sure if we went up and did a Leicester we wouldn't be able to enjoy it in the knowledge that it was only because other teams had been crap that season.
    Actually, I wish we could have just one season like Leicester are having, watching hard working players tracking back and after breaking down tackles getting the ball toward quickly to players who can actually put it in the net.
    All done with a team on Saturday against Man City in which the starting line up cost half if what our starting line up against Burnley did.
     
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    Nobody said anything disparaging about them nor said they shouldnt enjoy it. The facts are if they win it this season they'll have been the best team that season and it would be a miraculous achievement no matter what the circumstances. But its also fact that this season really is a once in a lifetime opportunity.

    I'd like to see Spurs win it but failing thatm, Lester, however if either of them do win it I wouldnt in a million years expect either of them to retain the title next season.
     
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    ...
    ... I take the point but actually see it it slightly differently ... what has happened this season is that there has been a blurring of the lines due to 'new wealth' ... clubs like Stoke, Everton, Watford, West Ham, Palace and ourselves are now able to really 'compete' in the transfer market (due to ownership and wealth) and thus the quality in our squads has bridged the gap towards the establishment ...

    .. in our case we have been lucky in that in Mahrez, Kante, Fuchs and Okazaki we have made incredibly shrewd purchases from overseas that have coincided with the emergence of home grown talent plus one master stroke in signing that BFG Robert Huth ...

    ... but the likes of Stoke with Arnautovic, Bojan, Shaquiri, Affelay, Wolscheid etc are light years beyong the Pulis days ... look at some other clubs too - Payet, Lanzini, Valencia, Kouyate at West Ham, Cabaye at Palace, Delofeu at Everton, Ighalo at Watford .. there is now quality floodng into the Premier league which has meant that all of these teams, on their day, are not now just plucky also rans but can really test the 'big boys' ... ...

    The bigger clubs are still spending as much, if not even more, but the spread of quality is far more even and has made instant success from assembling stars less guaranteed ... they are finding it very difficult when they come up against good 'teams' .. which all of those I've mentioned are when all players are fit...

    All of this is not good news for the Championship ... and is why you boys really do need to get yourselves back this year ... because next season's EPL TV deal is going to make it a chasm in terms of the quality of squads in the two top leagues ...
     
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  13. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    About a tenth of the Manchester City one.
     
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  14. bum_chinned_crab

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    Hmm, I dont agree. The teams you name have bought better and used their funds better, but I dont think they're competing in the transfer market. All of those teams youve listed pick up 'the scraps' that the top teams dont want. If Stoke, Everton, Watford, West Ham, Palace and Lester had tried to sign Sterling, he'd have still gone to Man City. And if any of the traditional big boys had gone for Igalho he'd have moved there instead.

    And more fool the 'big boys' for paying ridiculous fees when there's much better value to be had out there.
     
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    ... thought I'd been teleported to the Camp Nou buddy ... had to get home and watch it on the telly a few times to convince myself I hadn't been halucinating <laugh>
     
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  16. ElTigre

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    That's not really typical Leicester though is it? You haven't scored many goals through trying to break down opponents with bewildering passing.
     
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  17. FosseFilberto

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    ... OK so Stoke's side now is equivalent to their side 5 years ago? ... we'll agree to disagree ...

    .. and as for Sterling ... we wouldn't have been interested in paying that amount of money for ANY player ... but the bigger clubs do ... e.g Di Maria ... doesn't guarantee success ... but you are missing the point ... the new wealth does mean that you can go and sign 'names' ... Cambiasso and Inler at ours goes to prove it ... and also compete for hidden gems ... we now have Demarai Gray and Damiel Amartey and are putting together a £23 million bid for Ahmed Musa ... because we can easly pay the wages of such 'stars' (plus they have more of a chance of first team football perhaps) ... the quality of those players compared to what Nigel pearson initially started to build is very different ... and that comes down to a) being in the EPl and b) Wonga .. it really is the promised land if you can get there and stay there ... there are loads of good players out there ... historically only the very richest (biggest clubs) in the EPL could afford them ... that has now changed ...
     
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  18. FosseFilberto

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    ... probably far more than you would believe .. what we do is win the ball then look to get it forward either by carrying it at pace or playing the right ball at the right time ... it is most certainly NOT hit and hope ... there is a telepathic understanding between Vardy and Mahrez .. just how many joint goals they have i.e where one has assisted the other ...
     
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  19. bum_chinned_crab

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    I think your point is confused, you say you're competing for players and then talk about good players 'out there'. That's the point, you're picking up the less well known and less valued but just as good players. And Stoke finished 8th a few seasons back.

    Cambiasso was a free agent when you signed him after Inter dumped him. You signed Mancini under Peter Taylor years ago, it's just the same
     
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    Yes, but I was comparing what they have done and the performance on Saturday of a starting eleleven costing half that of out of ours.
     
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