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It Shall Be Jose!

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by cytrax, Dec 21, 2015.

  1. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    Has anyone considered the possibility that we never approached Pep or Mourinho because there is already a plan in place?

    The board knew when they appointed van Gaal that I was for a maximum of 3 years (not a long time), surely they had some plan for the future.
    Blanc?
     
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  2. Swarbs

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    Depending on which media source you believe (the correct answer being none of them), we weren't in for either Guardiola or Mourinho as the board sees both of them as short term options and wants someone long term. Which is a fair point for both of those two - they have a tendency to look for the exit as soon as the going gets tough and they aren't unopposed at the top any more.

    Although that does raise the question of who we would get in the current market who genuinely qualify as a long term manager. Blanc is a possibility, as is Simeone, but both would be risks given their limited level of experience.
     
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  3. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Is there ever a manager who's not a risk? You've got all the experience in the world at the helm right now but it just isn't working. I don't know much about Blanc but Simeone at least has an idea as to how he wants his team to play, he sets up defensivley but it's not negative they score goals. He's passionate (maybe a bit too passionate) and he's the right age to take a job on and be there long term.

    If he's an option you should grab it with both hands. I hope you pass him by.
     
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  4. HRH Custard VC

    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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    Maybe getting Jose in for a short turm may stabilize the club and get in a few big name players.
     
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  5. luvgonzo

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    How's that working for you at the moment?
     
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  6. Chief

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    Ed Woodward is chief exec, what you reckon will happen?
     
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  7. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    That Gus Hoodwink will be in charge as intrim manager at the end of the season. <laugh>
     
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  8. HRH Custard VC

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    Very good, he is keeping Liverpool in its place <ok>
     
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  10. cytrax

    cytrax Well-Known Member

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    To put it bluntly, I really believe we are a badly run club. The same board that thought it was smart to appoint Moyes which left most fans scratching their heads and missed the bus on letting go of LVG at close of last year. There is no other top club in Europe that would allow such run of results and still continue with the same old passive approach which is to the detriment of the club in the long term. The mention of Giggs is also pathetic.

    This is not the 80s and 90s. We are in the new era where you need continuos and sustainable results to keep up with the competition. Clubs can no longer afford to waste time keeping some bs faith in some stupid manager. As we have it all today, we could very well lose it all if this bad management continues.
     
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  11. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    I agree with some of that but I've never been overly obsessed about results. I'm willing to accept a barren spell provided a few other things happen...

    1) We play a good balance of expansive attacking football based on a solid defence.

    2) We continue to develop our players to play in the manner stated above.

    3) We continue to bring in a balance of academy youth and proven seasoned performers.

    In that sense who's to say we dont have a Zidane in Giggs ready to take over?

    One thing I'm absolutely convinced of about Giggs. Defensively, and also in terms of pressing and winning the ball, those will be his weakest attributes as a manager. He'll develop that given time so I'm willing to wait. But he'll need someone like a Phelan or Queiroz as his assistant in the meantime.
     
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  12. cytrax

    cytrax Well-Known Member

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    Treble, are you actually suggesting that you wouldn't mind Giggs as the next manager?
     
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  13. Stan

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    To be fair it wasn't long ago that you were laying into anyone who questioned whether LVG was the right man to manage United.

    So you're criticising the board for holding the same views as you. The difference is they live and die by their decisions, you can just flip flap on a message board without any repercussions.
     
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  14. cytrax

    cytrax Well-Known Member

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    Flip flap? Explain that, Stan.

    You cried about LVG before season even started because you didn't like the style of play even though they we actually getting results. Why would the board fire him at the time when we were close to the top of the league and even led as early as November.

    We all expected the play to improve but instead we went on a horrible run of 8 games without a win, got dumped out of two cups and morale got progressively worse. By Xmas time, there were enough justification to make decisive decision and change the manager.

    Please explain the "flip flop" in that.
     
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  15. Stan

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    Sure. One minute anyone who says anything negative about him is plain wrong, the next minute you want him sacked. One minute you start a thread about not signing potential for £36m, the next minute you start a thread about just how amazing Martial is. Flip. Followed by. Flap.

    That's because I'm not a results led moron. I could see that the football was **** and we were scraping results which were papering over the cracks. As it turns out I was right and you now agree with me!

    they wouldn't, they couldn't and they didn't. it didn't stop the fact that some people who just look at the final score and league table were sucked into thinking that we were going along swimmingly. As it happens, after our best performance of the season you are now saying the board are remiss for not sacking him. I'll let you re read your last sentence!

    Flip flap not flip flop. Flip flops are things you wear on your feet. As I said earlier, One minute anyone who says anything negative about him is plain wrong, the next minute you want him sacked. Flip flap. It's not just about results, it's about performances. Some fans didn't need a bad run of results to know that the management was a shambles. It was already obvious from team selections and performances.

    We played well last night. The style of football was completely alien to the Philosophy. LVG and his supporters, of which you were one until very recently, have been found out.
     
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  16. theevilreddevil

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    Fap fap fap
     
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  17. DerekTheMole

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    This conversation reminds me of a French shoe salesman.
     
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  18. Treble

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    I think I gave the pro's and con's. I saw the last couple of games he managed after Moyes. Hull was the last. There's no doubt he wants to play an expansive style. But it was also clear defensively he was naive.

    I would love the idea of Giggs going on to manage United. Why not if Zidane can do it at Real Madrid and Pep did it at Barcelona?

    I think a strong Assistant to cover the defensive side and what you have is a manager rooted in the club & a strong nmbr 2.
     
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  19. glazerfodder

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    Get Vida back as defensive coach
     
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  20. Treble

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    He'd probably end up killing everyone... just for the fck of it. There'd be rows of patio across the pitch with bodies buried. Not good.
     
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