Match Day Thread Leicester v Liverpool

FSG may not be a problem on the commercial side or in the funding, but they are responsible for the Transfer Committee. It has to be the worst idea in football, who makes the decisions, who is in charge, who identifies the buys, who decides how much to pay, who has the casting vote, who on the committee knows the job of purchasing players, where is identity and style of the team? There are just too many questions and the players bought seem to be on an ad-hoc basis with no clue how the team is supposed to function.

Frankly this summer should be an end to the committee and FSG need to act on that before we reach the summer window or we'll face another season with random players and performance to match the mish mash team.

 

I just hope Klopp's arrival will see a more productive return. He appears happy about the TC when speaking in the media. I know he can't say much else but I like to think he's a man of principal and wouldn't have joined us had there been an issue.

 

so did Bron. He appears to be more negative now when he reflects on the subject.

 

I was never convinced Brod was happy about it. Brod was also the one that refused to work with a DoF, something Klopp isn't against.

I think Brod was more old fashion in wanting to do more himself. Klopp is more of a modern guy that lets other people do their job.

 

You know who else have a formalised transfer committee?

Aston Villa.

 

That really is shocking... if someone reviews that, reviews the players, reviews our performances then in any other walk of life, your job would be seriously questioned so why nothing has been done to address our transfer record over the last 5 years is astonoushing. Doesn't mean get rid of committee etc, but it needs looking at to say, is this actually working? Yes/No? Are the people involved right? Do we need more/less people? Do we need a different mix? Do we scrap it and go down a DOF route?

In my opnion, green - good signing. No issues.
Orange - decent signing, either good squad option or a player you can se epotential in.

The rest... well less said the better and unfortunately they are the ones that have cost a hell of a lot!

It comes back to similar things over and over and starting to sound like a broken record but for the past 10 years at least, our policy has been recruit for a squad. Buy 6/7 players for £80m each year and try bed them into the squad... it didn't work 10 years ago but plenty of managers / owners / committees still persist with it.

Go and buy 2 players this year that are real top quality proven in Europe at top level. We can attract players from other top leagues... players like Suarez/Torres who were very good players in top leagues and can come into the team right away. Players that are used to the pressure of playing for big clubs and can adapt. Stop buying flavour of the months from the Prem who do well for lower clubs but struggle to step up like so many we've brought.

I'd rather see us buy 2 top quality players this year and have a weaker squad this year but then do the same the following year... it means after 2/3 years you actually build up a good squad and an even better first team. That saying that so many of us have said over and over, buy first team players and the current players become your squad players along with the youth products we currently have.

I'm intrigued more than anything to see how Klopp approaches the summer... hope he doesn't have a big clear out and bring in 6 or 7 like we've seen so oftenbut new managers tend to want to do that so not holding my breathe.

 

Just wanna say well done Leicester here really. Go and win the league. You deserve it. Stick a gimp plug in all those pundits mouths who've been going on about the 'inevitable falling away'.

cba getting into the minutiae, they were v good as they have been pretty much all season with a world class goal and a good reaction finish, we were ****e and blunt like a neutered ****ing mongrel as is our wont.

 

That's utter bollocks though.

You didn't score and you conceded 2 - plus watching the highlights your keeper made 2 outstanding saves.

Man for man you're a better side than Leicester and you lost without scoring or even forcing a decent save out of their keeper.

So how can you say that 'tactically' it was spot on from Klopp and therefore blame the players? Because patently his tactics didn't work

 

Can is 23! Are you expecting him to be the finished article? He's been one of the best performers this season but has gone off the boil. It happens - the lad has zero support from the rest of the midfield as well. He's played better than our DM and our captain.

He does need to add more to his game - assists, goals and better decision making.

Not sure why Allen has been slaughtered - he's a decent squad player for us. But as with others, if you can't run 30-40 yards, take on 3 players and score from 30 yards, you're considered a crap midfielder these days. And you're right about playing Allen - but he should be starting over Henderson or Lucas.

 

Cos.... quite simply we dominated the midfield area and had moreno in every time he wanted to run forward.

What's Klopp to do tactically after that bar shake his head when the muppets...

A. Press the suicide button by rank passing as that's what both saves come from.

B. Blaze the ball over making the wrong basic choices in the box.

Tactically we actually dealt with them ok.

I felt can decided himself he was a spare attacker when henderson was taken off and my comments prior to 2nd goal show that. He was walking back and that was pish.

 

Sorry but bollox.

That's blaming lucas and henderson and both gave their all running up and down.. just cos they are **** on the ball doesn't mean they didn't do their jobs better than can who frankly screwed the pooch and got hauled off.

Sprinting forward from a cm role in a 4231 then walking back so slowly that you can be given the ball in the opposition half to thrn sprint forward again to rinse and repeat was why he got hooked

The 3 took drinkwater and Kante out of it and those guys have been instrumental to Leicester this year.

Our decisions at the 18 yard line were so poor. I saw 3/4 times a quick ball to back stick would have opened them up. Moreno blazed one over that any pass would have been a goal. I saw 2 occasions where we tried to play head tennis to walk it in the net.

The other fact is we utterly dominated them from half time to 60mins and then blew out.. it would have been interesting to see a different change at that point we could have moved milner to cm for example and put benteke on

 

Agree with this - we have bought some talented youngsters and at decent prices. The problem and has been since Rafa left is that our marquee signings have been awful. FSG have backed every manager. The committee and managers have let them down.

 

But this is the thing - we don't need players who just put in a shift, and our squad is full of them. I'm not excusing Can because he was poor but he's shown far more in his short time here than either Lucas or Henderson, and has played FAR more football this season This is a guy who has been carrying our midfield this season and put in a shift.

And I disagree on Lucas doing his job - this guy is doing his best Gerrard/Doorman policy where he lets attackers go past him. Provides zero protection and provides no platform for the attackers.

It's a clusterf*ck.

 

As do most teams around Europe including At Madrid, Barca, PSG, Bayern.

 

I reckon we rebel and bin FSG and go and find somebody with real money.

Although it pains me how the league has gone in regards money - FSG aren't not suited to this club.

They would be better off at somewhere like Southampton nurturing young players.

We need to buy quality.

It annoys me we have slowly accepted our lot and being an average club.

 

The start of that five years we had Comolli. We then switched to the committee so technically it has been reviewed and altered once

 

3 of those teams don't really need to go "hunting" for players though Jimmy...they aren't in the business of finding gems among the trash.....

 

Barca sign youngsters, hence they transfer ban recently. Real Madrid have been caught up in it recently too, as have A.Madrid.

 

That is it. It is so obvious that no one in control sems to have seen it.

Just look at Leicester. They have 2 outstanding players and the rest are really hard working decent players as supporting cast. These 2 outstanding players make the difference: Mahrez and Vardy. They've hit a brillant partnership and they are pulling the whole team up with them.

And it is not as if we did not have our own example. We had Suarez and Sturridge. They nearly pulled us to the title. Where is this player in our squad? Coutinho? Firmino? The policy of getting a group of decent average players will inevitable get us an average team playing for us. The manager however excellent he is can do so much.

When Klopp puts out a team now, just compare the team and the opposition. Starting from the back, is our GK better than theirs? and so on, CBs, RB and LB, DMF, Strikeforce etc. More and more I see no real difference between the strength of our players and theirs. Whichever team we play, is there any confidence we will win? Is there any team in the premiership that we can be confident of beating? Villa WBA Newcastle Sunderland?

Having said that, these players are supposed to be above average, have been bought at great expense and paid great amounts. Why can't they perform? Is it the resposbility of the manager to make sure that the team delivers? yes we should give Klopp time as he came mid season and has to deal with the current squad. But life would much more difficult if we end up out of Europe altogether. Would top players want to play for us? Is FSG prepared to pay MORE than any other club to compensate for the lack of European football when they are in competition with the likes of Spurs, Arsenal, to get the top talent?


The bottom line is that the club must be prepared to spend VERY big on getting quality. Or otherwise we will languish in mid table. Klopp or not.

 

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I've just produced a thread in regards this,

It would be great if you could repost on their please