It's impossible to guage how succesful the recovery is after only 1 year. It's like saying a season's over after 1 month. It would be foolish to just let them try to clean up what they created because they would more likely, as they seem to be trying to do now, just try to get out of the recession by pretending there isn't one. They like to shout about their "other way" but go a bit quiet when asked what that is. You could also say Thatcher was trying to sort out the mess Labour left from the 70's when we were known as "the poor man of Europe" and had regular power cuts to try to save money.
Josh, I'm totally open minded. It's not disagreeing with me that makes you stupid, it's disagreeing with yourself. Macca was better than Grayson because he signed better players, played better football, got his tacticts right more often than not and got better results. He also treated players fairly and didn't lie and talk crap.
Both have 5 letters in their first name & both have 7 in their last name which both end in "n" . Is there prizes or anything involved !!
Clive, i do not disagree with myself, i dont understand why you cant comprehend that just because you disagree with some things that the manager does, you cant appreciate the things they do well, the reason i say your very narrow minded is because your quick to tlk about something that grayson has done wrong but you completely ignore the fact when hes done something right and i genuinely believe that it completely goes out of your mind and you can not recall it or recognise it, you know it could be a mental condition, you should go to a doctor 'I cant recognise anything that is good, everything just seems like ****' 'Yea, its called being a cynical asshole, now **** off im sick of talking to you'
Better results? I think you're definitely deluding yourself there. You do know Larry has the highest win percentage of any Leeds manager ever.
Grayson has a speech impedement and Camerson just speaks ****e at all times. Feck off Tories, Scotland didn't vote for you, so feck off out of our country.
Grayson does not have the highest win percentage of any Leeds manager, even though you'd expect him to after two seasons at the lowest level the club has been at. Macca certainly did get better results and with more convincing performances. Josh, if you appreciate the things Grayson does well then you should be able to state what they are.
Did you really just say that Macca did a more convincing job.....remind me clive how did he do that !!!!!!
Here's the table: Top 10 1)Simon Grayson - 62.76% (111 games) 2)Don Revie - 62.12% (740 games) 3)David O'Leary - 57.47% (203 games) 4)Gary McAllister - 55.33% (50 games) 5)Jimmy Armfield - 53.20% (193 games) 6)Howard Wilkinson - 52.80% (411 games) 7)Dennis Wise - 50.00% (68 games) 8)Raich Carter - 49.31% (217 Games) 9)Kevin Blackwell - 48.99% (115 games) 10)Dick Ray - 48.83% (342 games)
If you're going to use old stats you may as well use them from late '09, when it was about 72%, and make him look even better. He's had 137 games in charge and has a win percentage of 51. I'm not repeating myself, Spanish. Josh, I'm still waiting for you to state the things you feel Grayson does so well. There must be plenty of them to make up for him signing the worst player you've ever seen play football at any level.
grayson gets better results, clive even if you did use old stats, that means that they both were in league 1 and that means grayson is EVEN better than macca, 72% to 55.33% both in league 1. You ask me to prove why i back our manager when he has been the best manager we have had for years and is finally moving our club forward again but you cant explain why you think macca is better I think grayson has signed some decent players (i.e. gradel, kisnorbo) although people constantly knock our signings, he gets better results, plays quite good football regardless of what you say, is building a very good team, starting to bring through youngsters from the academy now as well with lees pushing for a start as well as thompson, cairns and the turner twins. He deals with very low budgets, always looks on the positive side which is rare for a leeds fan. What else would you like me to say Now, im waiting for you to say why macca is a good manager
I thought dennis wise did better than that to be honest and im also a little bit surprised to see blackwell up there as well
Wise's stats are a bit misleading,when working in tandem with Poyet he had a very high win percentage. As soon as Poyet left results plummetted,leaving Wise with probably around the 30% mark. The best signing we could have made this summer would have been installing Poyet as manager. Expect Brighton to do well this season.
Dennis Wise did get relegated with us though. He had a great half a season until he left to go to Newcastle. As for Gary Mac, how can anyone say he was a good manager? When he was sacked we were 10th (despite being favourites for promotion, having the largest wage bill and one of the largest squads) and had lost 5 games in a row, including a loss to Histon. We were messing around with Michalik and Rui Marques in defence, conceding a ridiculous amount of goals. Grayson took over, signed Richard Naylor and turned to defence around, leading us to 4th. We finished the season as the most on form team. The next season we won promotion. SG does have a lot of flaws, but to suggest he's actually been a bad manager for us is ridiculous.
He did what Dennis Wise and Gary McAllister couldn't do, get us out of League One. He discovered Somma, Gradel (a player bought for what was it £750k now worth £5m+) and Nunez. Turned Snoddy and Howson into first team regulars from bench warmers, got rid of Prutton, Enoch, Sheehan, Kandol and the rest of the league one rejects. Got us to just outside of the Championship play offs despite been just promoted from league one and using a bunch of freebies and peanuts signings. People go on about his poor signings but look at it this way, Billy Paynter was a league one hitman last season scoring 29 goals and bought on free agent, who would know he would only score one the following even in a league highers, Fede Bessome, Swansea's first choice left back who turned down their contract offer to go to Leeds, again no one would have known he was be so poor when he played decent at a championship club. And on what ground would we sack Grayson, the fact we missed the play offs by 1 win, the fact we sold a leaky inexperienced keeper bought on a free, the fact we aren't spending millions on players with money we don't have? Get a grip, Grayson the best manager we've had for donkey.
Lies, contradictions, hypocrisy and twisting of facts. That's all you ever get from Grayson supporters. When you point it out to them, they do it more, and you go round and round in circles. It seems to be that not one person can say what Grayson does well, recognise that he does many things wrong, but assume he must be good because we finished 2nd, by a point, in League 1 and 7th in the Championship. Blackwell is 9th, Josh. How many managers do you think we've had?
