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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by BBFs Unpopular View, Jan 25, 2016.

  1. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome
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    You a teacher?
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    This fake planet is not real science. Can we get back to planet 9 and the odds of finding it

    That and non newtonian substances
     
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  3. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    Did you say Planet 9 or Plan 9 from Outer Space? Can we discuss Plan 9 from Outer Space please?

    Also, what exactly is "the beast with two backs"? I mean, I can guess, but thought I'd make sure.
     
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  4. FedLadSonOfAnfield

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    Nah. He's just been held back a long long time.
     
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  5. FedLadSonOfAnfield

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    What has science ever achieved ?? It's the biggest load of bullshit. The world needs to wake up to reality and the fact that science is a human fantasy that proves or determines nothing.
     
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  6. Bodinki

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    What....the....****......
    Are you insane? <laugh>
     
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  7. Bodinki

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    The PC and/or tablet/smartphone you made that post on for a start <laugh>
     
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  8. FedLadSonOfAnfield

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    Don't be so quick to assume
     
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    <laugh>
    Mate, you are scary.
     
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  10. Bodinki

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    You were joking though right?.................
    I wont sleep till you answer.
     
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  12. DerekTheMole

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    I've made it just fine with cornflour before. According to wiki they're the same thing. Maybe you've tried a crap brand?
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Walking on custard.......

    Let's try the stuff I make. It's just walking on a cornflour water mix with yellow colour added.

    The vanilla pod wouldn't allow it in custard
     
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  14. BBFs Unpopular View

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    Planet nine, it's a matter of time I think, there are effects on KB objects that have been detected and that is how we found most of the outer lying planets. I think it's a case if where is it rather than does it exist. Accretion theory doesn't fit such large outlying planets at all which has certainly caused a lot of doubt, until exo planets started to be found.

    I think they are called Non Newtonian fluids only because solely because they cannot be calculated as a constant by the equations used like most other liquids. The mathematics cannot describe them in the same way.

    But does that mean the equations are incomplete or, these fluids are not fluids but solids suspended in liquids. The difference is time, Newtonian fluids are independent of time, where as a non NF has time as a metric on top of the actual physical interactions.

    NFs have a viscosity constant coefficient. NNFs do not. they have what appears to be called a time dependent coefficient, as in the rate of which interactions occur with an object and the liquid have a bearing (that would say momentum energy or kinetic energy plays a part too). As in if you stand on custard, you will sink but if you walk you will not, so imo kinetic energy applied to these fluids creates an effect of equal resistance, the increase of pressure over a certain small time period is essential to creating the resistance, ie the applied pressure of your weight with momentum creates enough force to hold your weight for a time/

    So are they strange or, is the mathematics incomplete? It's a calculation problem after all when you boil it down and nothing weird about the fluid.

    Blood is apparently an NNF. So it does appear to be dependent the type of solids suspended in liquid
     
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  15. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    There's a orbital plane to look at so its a question of looking there and seeing.... we will see.

    I think the second for NNF. they don't compress or move the same way due to the solid particles in the suspension. when compressed thay go rock hard for a second. if you simply stand there they have times to flow out and not go rock hard.
     
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  16. BBFs Unpopular View

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    Yeah I know that, it's why I am wondering. Salt solutions are also NNFs, so is blood. Full of dissolved solids and that is the key here imo.
    Other liquids have dissolved solids but nowhere near the ppm of NNFs, like sea water.

    Add enough salt to the oceans and they will become NNFs

    In fact, hitting sea water hurts a lot more than hitting fresh water, from a fall say.
    Density must play a part or TDS (total dissolved solids) something I dealt with in marine fish keeping
     
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  17. BBFs Unpopular View

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    Case in point, custard will only react that way if you add enough powder, ie dissolve far more solids into a liquid or you need to increase incremental force applied over a wider area, as in a less thick custard requires you to stomp harder and wear flippers to widen the area you apply pressure to.

    TDS appears essential to this effect. Simply, you need to bunch enough dissolved solids together and this is done by applying force to an area faster than the fluid can flow. It's not even weird, it makes perfect sense

    So NNFs might just be in someone's mathematical dream, just because Newtonian mathematics cannot quantify it as other fluids are calculated.


    Glass is a fluid btw,
     
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  18. carlthejackal

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    True.

    Faith is all...<ok>
     
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  19. BBFs Unpopular View

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    You made what.. Cornstarch creates a semitransparent thick goop, Cornflower makes a white sticky goop that has starch in it, and corn.that is not the same at all .<laugh> Cornstarch comes from the plant, starch in corn is from turning it into cornflower, fermentation and sugars and some **** like that
     
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  20. FedLadSonOfAnfield

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    Trust in God and all the wonders and miracles and workings of the Universe will be revealed to you in their most fullest glory and you will see Paradise
     
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