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Well given as you said Roger Piekle believes in global warming yet I still listen to what he has to say, proven to be not a filter bubble. That went well for you, I posted that video ages ago.. and you never watched it, then you copy and paste a section of transcript you 3 minuted experted, and left out the most important bit of his testimony

More general mush, nonsense, when it comes to what you said and my replies, the reality is different, just more dishonest paraphrasing from you, it's basically all you've got at this point, and lots of laughy faces

You disagree with absolutely everything I say, given your ignorance, knowledge is not the reason you disagree.. so what is it?

 

Is it ego that drives you to make a fool of yourself, like Astro.. ego for him alright, assume it's same for you.

TT is just a bit of a weirdo no one listens to, like a yapping dog

 

Didn't we already do the polar bear stuff last month?

 

Yet more complete delusion, no wonder you're a plastic Kopite..

 

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Your little filter bubble is tiny. It's clear you have skimmed and taken the parts that fit your oil shrill agenda

The only accurate data is the 37 year satellite imagery of the southern polar cap, as this data comes mainly via NASA then your claim on record coverage is from a source you mock

And don't get me started on your skim reading of polar bear numbers and how they have increased

As pointed out, there are any conspiracy sites.......

Try posting the full facts, not some picture in isolation......put the real source of your 'data'

Until then I will treat your posts with pity

 

So then sisu let's summarise yesterday,
You post a few charts links etc
Two of those are questioned one article by booker and a chart by Pielke.
Turns out you have not even read the article by booker who it seems is a complete wack job.
The chart by Pielke is widely derided on the net due to poor methodology.
When these are pointed out, you see your arse and goe off on your usual dance about how everyone is too stupid to understand, avoid answering questions, lies about what other posters are saying etc

You then get to the whole purpose of this thread, your need for that self delusional victory dance. I have already put forward my theory as to why you feel that need, so answer me this, who was it that abused you over your school work as a child?

 

Good piece on how the #scientists mistake weather for climate

2015 Global Temp, Or How Some Scientists Deliberately Mistook Weather For Climate

• Date: 22/01/16
• Dr David Whitehouse

The data for the global temperature of 2015 is in, and its a shattering record. It is claimed that global warming has resurged, terminating the warming ‘pause’ for good. But an important factor has been downplayed and one ignored altogether.
Nasa says that 2015 was 0.13°C+/-0.10°C above 2014. The UK Met Office said that 2015 was 0.18°C +/- 0.10°C above 2014. Noaa says 2015 was 0.16°C+/-0.09°C warmer than the previous record which was 2014.

Noaa had only one month in 2015 cooler than the same month in 2014 – April. According to the Nasa data four of them were cooler than 2014 (April, May, Aug, Sept) whilst Hadcrut4 had eleven months warmer than 2014 with April tied. For September 2015 Nasa has it 0.08°C cooler than 2014 whereas Noaa has it 0.14°C warmer!

Despite what some scientists have said the large increase over 2014 is far to great and swift to be due to a resurgence of forced global warming. It must be due to short-term natural variability, and you don’t have to look far to find it. 2015 was the year of the El Nino which boosted the year’s temperature. (In the Nasa press conference about the 2015 global temperature see how long it takes the presenters to mention the El Nino)

“We are seeing an extreme climate state,” Randall Dole, a meteorologist working for Noaa, told the Journal Nature this week. He was commenting on the recent El Nino which is one of the strongest on record, with ocean temperatures reaching as much as 3°C above normal in parts of the central and eastern Pacific. It was unsurprising then that Nasa on releasing its global temperature measurements made reference to it. “Only once before, in 1998, has the new record been much greater than the old record by that much.” This clearly because 2015 was like 1998 a strong El Nino year.

One point to notice however is that even without the El Nino that made the fourth quarter much warmer than the preceding three 2015 would have been a record for the Nasa data. If the first six months of the year had been repeated then it would still have set a record. Curiously though no single month during that period (indeed up to September) set a record for that particular month demonstrating how close the global temperature has been over the past decade or so.

A Little Bit On Top
If the El Nino dominated the last part of the year another example of natural variability was dominating the earlier months. The reason for the first nine months of 2015 being collectively warm can also be found in the Pacific. As I reported in September 2015 conditions in the north Pacific were unprecedented in 2015. The Summer warmth of 2014 had not dissipated. Indeed since 2013 the so-called Pacific “Blob” has kept a million square km of ocean 3°C above normal, (indications are that as of January 2016 the blob is beginning to dissipate.) “The temperatures are above anything we have seen before,” said one scientist in my article.

So 2015 was an exceptional year for weather, which is not the way some scientists presented it. None of them mentioned the “blob” and as for the El Nino it was the “little bit on the top” merely a minor contribution. Most of the temperature rise was down to forced global warming, they said.

This is all slight of hand, and a little inaccurate. The IPCC says that just over half of the warming since the fifties is forced so most of the contribution to 2015′s temperature is natural variability. In addition the factor that makes 2015 warmer than its previous years is not a resurgence of forced global warming but the “blob” and the El Nino.

Can one speculate what the temperature of 2014 and 2015 would have been without the blob and the El Nino. Some scientists have said it made only a few hundredths of a degree difference, others have said it makes a few tenths of a degree difference.

I think the few hundredths of a degree suggestion is wrong. So can the combined “blob” and El Nino account for the 2015 temperature excess of 0.13, 0.18 or 0.16°C depending on your choice of data set? It could. Indeed without the “blob” and the El Nino 2015 could have been cooler than 2014. Without the “blob” 2014 could have been cooler than 2010.

This makes suggestions that the “pause” in annual average global surface temperatures has been “terminated” premature. The “pause” will not be ended by weather but by forced global warming. Consequently it is unsafe to use 2015 in any trend analysis to eliminate the “pause.” It is essential to view the 2015 along with subsequent years to catch the cooling La Nina effect. Only this way can the El Nino contribution be properly assessed.

The main conclusion that can be drawn about 2015 is that it was a truly exceptional year for weather, and for misleading press releases.

http://www.thegwpf.com/2015-global-...sts-deliberately-mistook-weather-for-climate/

 

So I am wondering which "authority" you believe/

NOAA CRU and NASA all have different results.. they cant even get their story straight?

The "blob" in the pacific has been making it warmer since 2013.. how come that was left out of their "science".

Three things have been discounted by them all this year.
The pacific blob, El Nino and Natural variability, it's all global warming?

Suuuure
#pseudoscience

 

Just make any old **** up, take quotes because otherwise you lie, and the quotes you copy, put your argument to them, instead of this general pharaphrasing

Show my quotes you disagree with and why and lets hash it out?

Leave your bitterness at the door

 

while I have time now, I know living life is seen as a disadvantage by trolls

 

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I am surprised one of you ******s have not tried to say the snow storms are caused by man...

It's making the rounds.

No snow by 2010 because of man has now become, more snow because of man

#mouthbreathingmorons

 

I can prove this is true, just with IPCC documents alone, never mind all the other "scientific" claims

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Which of you have read any IPCC report?

 

Here is GAT and predictions

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Warming is below the lowest prediction (draconian cuts) meaning this is the forecast for no increase in emissions, meaning, CO2 is not driving temperature according to NASA and the IPCC.

This is according to the the NASA you so much believe is right.

So how does one tackle this cognitive dissonance?

GAT is nothing to do with weather and climate, it is a residue, if you are too stupid to understand why it is a residue I will explain it.

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As seen here, even the grossly adjusted temperature is below ALL LOWEST predictions, meaning, they are all wrong btw
I posted this before recently and the usual suspects totally ignored it

 

@Diego This is how it works
Raw data v TOBS adjustment v final adjustment.

The actual measurement show cooling, TOBS adjustments made it gets warmer, and the final adjustments make it much warmer.

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Keep in mind they dont have the data to change the past temperatures, that's all complete fraud

and global warming is cooling the most responsive place on earth to temperature.. Arctic gaining sea ice like **** in the "hottest year on earth EVER" Antarctic breaking the record year on year now.. after 35 years of lying about the antarctic they now try say it is irrelevant

arctic smashing records in hottest year ever and into 2016

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Note the drop in 2015 in april, that's when the Guardian went into Meltdown.. and haven't mentioned ice levels since, not until it melts again this summer #pseudoscience
Arctic "may" be "ice free" they claimed, may could should might are the words of climate alarmist clowns

 

The US. after not having anywhere near it's hottest year in 2015, because of their weather (not climate)... is now this

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Every state bar Florida has snow on the ground.
#globalwarming

 

Seeing as Tobes and Astro like skeptical science.
https://www.skepticalscience.com/antarctica-gaining-ice.htm

Climate Myth...
Antarctica is gaining ice
"[Ice] is expanding in much of Antarctica, contrary to the widespread public belief that global warming is melting the continental ice cap.


Given this has been utterly debunked by the IPCC and NASA. Do you see why you cant use Skeptical science? It's a clima religion site, militant illogical activism, or more accurately, leftist authoritarianism.

 

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IPCC Third Assessment Report


Now Mann the proven hockeystick statistical fraud is saying global warming is causing freezing cold.

Wheel of Climate Change, any outcome is proof

 

Warmer earth means more ice? after claiming it meant no ice?. Jan regrowth of Ice record.

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Cold apparently means hot, increasing ice, means global warming.

All because of data twice removed from measurements by government funded science

 

He's an astrophysicist who's had no peer reviewed papers published on the climate or global warming.

His opinion is just that, an opinion.