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Off Topic Iraq veterans investigated for war crimes

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  1. Charley Farley

    Charley Farley Well-Known Member

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    Our servicemen have been badly treated for ages.
    They were promised 'homes fit for heroes' and got heroes fit for homes.
    So many cannot get somewhere to live yet enter the country illegally and they fall over themselves to give you free stuff.
    When the bloody action is over the politicians (and lawyers) emerge from their safe hidey holes and the serviceman is forgotten or vilified.
    It is no surprise to me that lawyers are trying to squeeze money out of wartime incidents.
    Thornberry gets thousands from this juicy soldier sue-ing.

    Part of the Tommy Atkins poem:

    You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
    We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
    Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
    The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
    For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an` Chuck him out, the brute! "
    But it's " Saviour of 'is country " when the guns begin to shoot;
    An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
    An 'Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees!
     
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  2. Blunham Mackem

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    Great post Charley
     
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  3. pauljohnhutch

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    look ! we are all pissed off but were all just having a moan are we doing anything about it ?not really .we need to get together ,start something ,im going to see my mp ronnie cambell i want to tell him FACE TO FACE im not happy with this and ask him what he is going to do about it . i might even phone that number and ask him if he wiil take the government to court for me . i joined the R N to see the world, not for maggie the milk snatcher to get votes by sending me to the falklands to sit in a tin box for days on end while some argentinian dropped bombs on me for fun.
     
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  4. Billy Death

    Billy Death Well-Known Member

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    Good post mate but I doubt Purple Ronnie will do owt about it.
     
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  5. marcusblackcat

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    This country is bollocks - trying people for treating the iraqi's unfairly - I bet all of the Iraqis were fully compliant and never argued with the people who had them as captives. I also bet no Iraqi's ever blew up soldiers using roadside bombs or anything did they?

    Couple that with the ****ing disgraceful "human rights for prisoners" bullshit and we have major reasons why this country is going to ****! (Gone?)

    I've never fought in the forces but I worked as a civi for quite some time (teaching IT) and have seen some pretty horrendous images and video's of people being blown up! I have lost friends in the forces to these walk up "can you help me" innocent looking people who then pull out a gun and shoot them! Why would we trust them? I ****ing hate this country - well - I love this country but I hate the way it is run
     
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  6. grandpops

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    David Cameron has launched a crackdown on lawyers pursuing soldiers through the courts over allegations of torture or killing of civilians during the Iraq war.

    He has ordered the Government's National Security Council to come up with proposals which will be aimed at restricting the ability of lawyers to bring cases against soldiers.

    :: Iraq Torture Claims: 280 UK Soldiers Questioned

    Launching his crackdown, the Prime Minister said: "It's clear that there is now an industry trying to profit from spurious claims lodged against our brave servicemen and women.

    "It's unacceptable and no way to treat the people who risk their lives to keep our country safe. It has got to end.

    "So I have tasked the National Security Council that I chair to produce a comprehensive plan to stamp out this industry."

    The National Security Council's proposals are likely to include:

    :: Clamping down on no-win, no-fee schemes used by law firms to make money in these cases - known as Conditional Fee Agreements - and the costs that can be awarded through these arrangements so that there simply isn't the financial incentive to pursue these claims.

    :: Speeding up the planned legal aid residence test, which is due to come in to force in the summer and will require claimants to have lived in the UK for 12 months; and

    :: A broader legislative package to strengthen the investigative powers and penalties that can be used against those firms found to be abusing the system.

    The Government says the clampdown on the financial incentives will be accompanied by action against any firms found to have abused the system in the past to pursue fabricated claims:

    Mr Cameron has singled out the law firm Leigh Day for criticism, telling MPs in the Commons earlier this month: "I do think that this organisation, Leigh Day, has questions to answer, not least because it was deeply involved in the al-Sweady inquiry, where a lot of claims completely fell apart and there was, it seems, evidence that could have shown that those claims were false."

    Earlier this month Leigh Day was referred to the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal as a result of the failure to disclose a key document to the official inquiry into torture allegations in Iraq.

    The document showed that the claimants had been members of the Mahdi Army and not the innocent civilians they made themselves out to be.

    The Legal Aid Agency has also been asked to review all legal aid contracts to establish whether legal aid should be restricted on an interim basis in relation to any firm under investigation for misconduct, and whether such contracts should be scrapped entirely after disciplinary proceedings have been completed.

    A spokesperson for Leigh Day said: "We have a system in this country that enables people to obtain justice if they have suffered abuse, damage or loss at the hands of anyone. No-one is above the law, not us, not the British Army and not the Government. We cannot imagine that the Prime Minister is proposing that this should change.

    "We have made it very clear that we refute all of the allegations that have been laid before us by the Solicitors Regulatory Authority. We will contest those allegations vigorously before the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal. Our statement in relation to these allegations is on our website and we are unable to comment further."

    There you go comm.
    @Billy Cattermole
    @commachio1
     
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  7. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Well done pops.

    Well done Cameron. Stamp these ****ers out.
     
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  8. Billy Death

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    Yes, I completely agree.
    About ****ing time summat was done about these leeching, greedy bastards.
     
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  9. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    How about trying this:

    fuck yourself.jpg
     
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  10. grandpops

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    Absolutely. The worst kind of ambulance chasers.
     
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  11. Billy Death

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    I just emailed the ****ers & telt them exactly what I think.
    Doubt it'll bother them like.
     
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  12. grandpops

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    Good for you. <ok>

    As you say I don`t suppose they`ll be bothered. The only thing that matters to them is ££`s. No scruples at all.
     
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  13. Blunham Mackem

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    I'll believe it when I see it.

    As far as I'm concerned, Cameron's just playing to the masses. Hey lets have a pop at one of society's most hated groups - lawyers! That'll make me look good in the press!!
     
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  14. grandpops

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    Aye, he does plenty of that.

    Mind, this is first time I`ve seen one of those law firms named. Fun and games if the public take a dislike to their offices.
     
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  15. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Are you a lawyer? Nee wonder you can afforf all these cakes.<whistle>
     
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  16. Billy Death

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    That's kind of what I'm hoping.
    People boycott the bastards & hit the money grabbing ****s in the pocket.
     
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  17. Blunham Mackem

    Blunham Mackem Well-Known Member
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    They're being sued for millions mate. Its in the public domain and therefore an easy target. Which is what they should be, to be fair. A target!
     
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  18. Blunham Mackem

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    No Comm. I'd rather eat my own kids than be a lawyer!!

    Especially Divorce Lawyers!! Bastards!! <grr><grr><grr><grr><grr>

    Not bitter like. <whistle>
     
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  19. Commachio

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    Aye one once cost me 55k. Although i wasnt technically married.

    Mind i was with her a long time. So my bitterness is now diluted.
     
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  20. pauljohnhutch

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    whats there email address id like to contact them myself
     
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