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Huge Contrast- with Henry & without this season

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Peter Damage, Jan 13, 2016.

  1. Peter Damage

    Peter Damage Well-Known Member

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    Must have missed that bit in school. Normally got quite a good memory but I don't remember a single teacher or uni professor telling me that it wasn't enough to go on to explain your statement but instead you need to write, 'IMO'

    IMO it seems that what you are saying isn't factually correct and actually to follow your own new take on the English language, what you should have said was; IMO you need to write IMO opinion after anything you say

    Completely agree. Can't see how someone in such a key position gets such a free pass by some to not influence the game

    These same people give non of the other attacking midfielders like Phillips any slack from the defensive side of the game. Henry can pass extra responsibility to him but can't then be expected to cover them
     
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    For me Henry shouldn't be the scapegoat, thought that was Ferdinands job these days ;) however he is very limited and has had his best performance at RB. I'm not saying he is a terrible player he just frustrates me, like it's been mentioned he does seem to hide when we have the ball which is probably a good idea if we are trying to mount a serious counter attack, he tends to kill any forward momentum dead, passing sideways and back. Think it's clear to see with most that there are better options at the club right now
     
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  3. TWGWTDT

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    Agree 100% how can the other side do anything without the ball
    However Bob you know only too well that not having the ball is the biggest part of positioning basics

    My point to that is that the current QPR team doesn't do that well enough and makes us look disjointed and any player like our Henry isolated ... Hence the comments on here saying he does nothing
    Any team that grows in confidence and retains the ball will make the position of a Henry look like he is running the game

    French football I watch often looks like two chess masters playing as it does to me when I watch top premiership sides.

    The rest of the team need to retain the ball in the modern game

    Punting it upfield under Ramsey was a tactic that he developed into our style of play ... Not the Rangers way but we were fighting to get a point in the premiership because we simply haven't got the quality to keep it

    So getting the ball to Austin and applying pressure was the only option

    It makes me laugh when posters on here talk of Faurlin and Hill

    Faurlin is a favourite of mine but we know he is limited but plays the right way. Hill can play only one way with his heart which is creditable but it's always the Alamo with him

    I rate Henry very much and pluck him out of QPR and put him into that position mentioned and he won't let you down in fact in this league he would strengthen any of the teams

    I agree with you that we must retain the ball first ... Will that happen?

    I am not sure but it requires a base of play to get established

    I haven't seen JFH team yet to assess the whole thing other than on TV and highlights

    I would love to see a young side at QPR with a young Henry type but we haven't got one nor have we got anything of a side yet because the club has been totally mismanaged around the football and it will take years to rebuild that so to blame it all on Henry or any one single player is total rubbish
     
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  4. TWGWTDT

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    The basic fan of today believes we should attack attack attack

    We want to win every game

    How can this QPR side and club do that at the moment get real lads

    No reason however it clicks in the future but at the moment we are miles off. Mr Peter to blame Henry is the biggest joke on here and to try and back it up with some numbers is even worse. This won't stop unless it stops because there will be another escape goat

    This season was always about rebuild and it will continue into the next And maybe the next after that
     
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  5. TWGWTDT

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    The basic fan of today believes we should attack attack attack

    We want to win every game

    How can this QPR side and club do that at the moment get real lads

    No reason however it clicks in the future but at the moment we are miles off. Mr Peter to blame Henry is the biggest joke on here and to try and back it up with some numbers is even worse. This won't stop unless it stops because there will be another escape goat

    This season was always about rebuild and it will continue into the next And maybe the next after that
     
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  6. Star of David Bardsley

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    I see a lot of sanctimonious crap but very little about what Henry actually adds to the team. What are the bloke's skills?

    Again, he's clearly not the only problem, and I hear he did ok on Tuesday although his defensive "menace" was lacking for the goal
     
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    Faurlin is a limited footballer? Absolute tosh.
     
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  8. bobmid

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    I don't think Damage is solely laying the blame on henry for our season but pointing out a stat that needs questioning especially in today's era of tactical assessment. Our whole team is simply not good enough. Apart from Austin, we have had no players really performing to our perceived levels of themselves. I don't think formation even becomes a factor and to an extent even selection but more the opinion that we as fans think the players are better than they actually are.
     
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  9. EscapeGoat

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    Henry's given everything he could whilst he's been here. I can't fault him for that.

    However, we're all yearning for QPR to be a team that is smarter in possession and adopts a philosophy we all want to support. Henry doesn't really fit the mould in that regard.

    The reality is that we're a recently relegated team operating under stricter FFP rules, and therefore there will be no quick fix. Next season will paint our future in a realistic light. Who will Hasselbaink bring in? Which players will go? Lots yet to be answered.

    All I want to see is a core of players who we know will form the spine of the team next season.
     
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    Look I love the player for QPR but today he has his limits and the point I make is he needs a minder so he can create. He is on record as saying his best games where when he played with Taarabt and the whole thing was underpinned by the excellent Derry

    Derry's time came to an end
    Faurlin currently needs Henry in order to play both players are shall we say jaded then but still vital

    Faurlin playing at the top of his current game will need a Henry

    I wish it was the 10m Sandro on form to do the Henry job but he can't seem to stay fit whereas Henry does

    Henry puts in a shift each match IMO and its in him naturally to do that

    Watford Henry has always played as a menace He is one nasty bit of grit

    It's the entire team that looked lost in the last 15 minutes and until we break that mound we look weak

    I get it you just don't like him but after he has gone who are you and Mr Peter targeting next?

    Try and enjoy QPR even on the dip
    Life will be better all round

    Back to Faurlin his limits are simple he can't do box to box anymore or as well as he did. Watch Henry he still can. Both players have their limits today and that's my point why just Henry? The answer IMO is because a QPR supporter today has to have an escape goat because of the ride we have ridden
     
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  11. rangercol

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    "Without him we'd be top of the league"!
    Not "possibly" or "could be".
    We WOULD BE top of the league.
    That is a statement of fact.
    Are you a little dim?

    I know you can never be wrong so I'll allow you the last word.
     
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  12. TWGWTDT

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    We all want a QPR team to play QPR football, we have tried buying that and failed. I say let these great servants do their job and keep us mid table then we get that spine in

    Hall looks like the first of the new breed and my guess is the next position will be for a Henry type of player
     
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    Faurlin needs Henry?

    Faurlin needs someone with legs, pace, athleticism. A crab who hides from the ball and can only dream of getting box to box is exactly what he doesn't need.
     
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  14. Peter Damage

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    Only it isn't a 'statement of fact', it's a 'statement'

    It's a statement that I then went on to qualify within that original post. I made it very clear that the statement was based on applying the points per game average either with or without him starting taken from the 26 league games.

    Was just for demonstration purposes that I then applied that to a 46 game season to spark a debate and add some perspective.

    No need to be offensive just because you haven't
    been able to get your head around something that I felt was quite straight forward.
     
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    Henry is a limited player in a deeply average team. In my opinion. To conduct a vendetta against him is futile and pointless, all our players are to blame for what we see, as are the management and owners. And bogus statistical analyses really don't make an iota of difference.
     
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    I really struggle to understand what your fixation is with Henry, you make excuse after excuse for him. Always you are having a go at other players shortcomings or the QPR fan base. You trot out some old bollocks about how you would teach us all about football and how you know players within the game that have played agains and fear Henry. You are so far up your own arse that I am surprised that your french boyfriends cock has enough space to get up there too. Your a miserable obnoxious cnut that i hope gets hit by a bus.
     
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    You want to retract that and apologise while you have a chance?
     
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    Charming. This is not on @LoopyR You have until 22:00 to sort it out.
     
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  20. Star of David Bardsley

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    I'm curious to know the result but then I'm nosey
     
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