Liverpool's Goalkeepers...

He's capable of making great saves, but sorry overall he isn't really a good shot stopper either. The goals last night proving this..

 

Klopp wants runners. That's were Lallana fits in (for now)

 

Lallana isn't good enough - the lad will put a shift in but he offers nothing else. It's very concerning how often he kills attacks by either dwelling on the ball or not seeing the pass.

Once Klopp gets a winger in, I think Lallana will be first to be dropped.

 

I think he's a good shot stopper but that's just a fraction required to be top quality. There was a moment when Moreno was expecting Migs to come out but he was glued to his line.

He should not be beaten by his near post for the first goal but that was one problem - Toure gave away the ball with a weak header, Henderson doesn't track Ramsey and Kolo could have done better covering.

The second one is harsh but the corner was whipped in towards the near post and he failed to adjust - again, his angle and positioning is part of the problem.

But this is the thing - we're talking about fine margins and we need to cut these out if we want to be challenging for honours.

 

In the long term he will be replaced but right now he is one of our better options.

 

Yep, can't argue really. Which is a shame because I like to argue with you.

 

lallana and ibe are very funny.... you see time and time again they could deliver but they stand o nthe ball and hold it and hold it until they have 3 lads closing them down...

Can is the same. his issue is he seems to think he has a right or need to run 15-20 yards before making a positive pass.

 

Agree on Can - all 3 get into great positions but dwell.

Can and Ibe are young but Lallana has no excuses.

 

The first one he was a yard too far over to his right though. The fact he had to dive to still get nowhere near it should tell you that That was one to be saving with his legs if he'd been in the right position. The second and third were definitely not his fault though.

The point is Sakho wasn't dealing with Giroud and seeing Lalla in front of him should have made him even more alert. As for Skrtel rarely getting injured....that is exactly the reason he should be valued a little higher by yourself and hardly a stick to beat him with. Skrtel isn't poor he's just average....and as I've been saying for a long, long time (unfortunately) average still makes him a better bet than the rest of the ****e around him. Sad but true.

 

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You need to consider the build up play too. The ball should never have reached Ramsey. The pace in which it did meant Migs had little time to adjust and get over there. Add the power and accuracy of the finish and I think most keepers would have been beaten there.

I actually think the questionable one if any is the corner since he actually dives past the ball

 

I would say that he's normally a good shot stopper and last night was an exception.

 

No - being able to play 30-40 games at an average level isn't good enough.

Nor is playing 15 games at top class level.

I love Sakho - his ability isn't in question. It's his fitness because after every injury, he'll need a couple of weeks to get back to peak. And successful defences are built on consistency.

 

meh... he thinks he's got more talent than he actually does.

the very best players don't take risks like he does and make it look easy by being in right place not diving in.

he needs to calm down and cut out the wilder stuff.

 

This is correct. Sakho and Toure were to blame for your defensive frailty last night. The keeper had no chance with the 2nd and 3rd. If you were being uber critical you could say Ramsey's shot shouldn't have beaten him at the near post, but it was hammered in low from about 10 yards away!

 

He needed to take one step to his left He had enough time to dive and miss it. Does a step to the left take longer? Think we'll have to disagree on that one

The second wasn't great but no way on gods earth should a big centre half let the opposition forward have the time to get to that ball and get it goalwards. Minger couldn't see the thing because Sakho was blundering around in front of him. Not great but I'd give him the benefit of the doubt on that one rather than the first one (never, ever get beaten at your near post).

Yet playing at an average level for 30-40 games IS the best we have, no-one else even comes close to Skrtel's averageness I'm not sure I've seen 15 top class performances from Sakho since he's been here never mind this season.

Sakho's ability is very much in question Jimmy. It is for me anyway, it's as plain as day when he plays like last night he's no more use than a Skrtel or a Lovren or a Toure. You're using injuries as an excuse for him and they may well be a contributing factor but can you genuinely say you give the same leeway to others after injury? Will Flanno or Skrtel be allowed a few howlers without feeling the wrath? He's just another one with "potential" who at this moment isn't cutting the proverbial mustard.

 

If we keep adding scapegoats we will finally someday realise the whole team isn't performing.

Sides just need to sit back and play wide or long against us and go for quick counters to destroy us. Its just been a couple weeks since someone tortured s like that so lads have forgotten i reckon.

Utd will do this.

 

No they won't, Caulker the destroyer of worlds, will be fit by then mate and he'll boss it. Hat-trick, at least.

 

Correction; he needed to make one more step to his left. He was already moving over but because of the defensive failure he hadn't moved over enough.

If he had moved over another step but the ball had been squared, you'd have moaned he'd left an empty goal!

 

Just need to front up to felliani, take the 6 or 8 fouls without any referee punishment and rough him up.