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  1. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    So you've resorted to that now too eh.

    I guess actually understanding this subject is not as fun as throwing around labels. I assumed the handbags was between certain individuals and I but it appears some bandwagoning is afoot.

    Unless I am mistaken and you are not as thick as Astro\Tobes\PJ\Terrific ?

    A simple record of temperature that shows where we are in global temp, has something to do with conspiracy?

    At what point did you get your knickers in a twist, what was my offence this time ? <doh>

    Yet another internet fool who deems himself "intelligent", another appeal to authority type <whistle>
     
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  2. astro

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    He's probably realised you're a #bottler who runs away

    Any source for your polar bears claim, or just more graphs about NASA planned?
     
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    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    Astro you're having a meltdown mate. I don't argue with sociopaths, let alone self delusional 3 minute experts. There is nothing in this world that would change your mind bar the BBC and Cameron telling you, well conditioned
     
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    There is no argument. You have no sources. #endof
     
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    People talk of conspiracy and then expect I take them seriously and answer their questions <laugh>

    and they talk of "agenda".. logic fail
     
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    Mysterious Collision At Large Hadron Collider
    By Newsroom America Staff at 11 Jan 08:14

    (Newsroom America) -- Physicists around the world were puzzled recently when an unusual bump appeared in the signal of the Large Hadron Collider, the world's largest and most powerful particle accelerator, causing them to wonder if it was a new particle previously unknown, or perhaps even two new particles.

    The collision cannot be explained by the Standard Model, the theoretical foundation of particle physics.

    Adam Martin, assistant professor of physics at the University of Notre Dame, said he and other theoretical physicists had heard about the results before they were released on Dec. 15, and groups began brainstorming, via Skype and other ways, about what the bump could mean if confirmed -- a long shot, but an intriguing one.

    "It was so weird that people were forced to chuck their favorite theories and start from scratch," Martin says. "That's a fun area of particle physics. We're looking into the unknown. Is it one new particle? Is it two new particles?"

    The paper considers four possible explanations for the data, including the possibility that it could indicate a heavier version of the Higgs boson, also commonly known as "the God particle."

    Further research could yield mundane explanations, Martin says, and the excitement could fade as it has many times in his career. Or it could open up new insights and call for new models.

    "People are still cautiously optimistic," he says. "Everybody knows that with more data, it could just go away. If it stays, it's potentially really, really, really exciting."
     
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    What could it be? <yikes>
     
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    That is lordly cautious optimism by the fact they told everyone about it <laugh>
     
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    It could be a a signal, or the equipment or technique\methodology but because no one else is allowed have that data and info.. we dont know ;) We just have to take their word for it
     
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    The data is all around the planet.
     
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    This black hole is an extreme recycler
    Giant fountains of ejected gas cycle back to feed the hungry galaxy center
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    CHRISTOPHER CROCKETT
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    RADICAL RECYCLING A galaxy bathed in a pool of hot gas (blue) has fountains of hydrogen (red) erupting from its core, as seen in this composite image. A new study shows how these fountains get recycled into new stars and black hole food through a galaxy-sized pump.

    X-RAY: CXC/NASA, MICHIGAN STATE UNIV., G. VOIT ET AL; OPTICAL: NASA, STSCI, DSS; H-ALPHA: W. BAADE TELESCOPE/MAGELLAN AND CARNEGIE OBSERVATORY, UNIV. OF MARYLAND, M. MCDONALD
    KISSIMMEE, Fla. — Like a cosmic water fountain, a supermassive black hole is cycling gas through a galaxy-sized pump. The black hole powers jets that blast gas over 30,000 light-years away from the galaxy only to rain back down on a reservoir from which the black hole feeds. Yale University astronomer Grant Tremblay described this phenomenon January 6 at a meeting of the American Astronomical Society.

    The fountain sits at the heart of a galaxy within the Abell 2597 cluster, a galactic gathering over 1 billion light-years away in the constellation Aquarius. Observations from theAtacama Large Millimeter/submillimeter Array in Chile reveal that the fountain billows into plumes with the mass of about 1 billion suns. The force of the jets appear to trigger the formation of new stars within these plumes. Most of the ejected gas falls back down onto the central region of the galaxy and then slowly trickles back toward the black hole to start the loop again.

    This galactic pump might help regulate star formation throughout the galaxy. The fountain can continually stir up gas and prevent much of it from creating stellar nurseries.
     
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  13. Tobes

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    It was hotter 100 million years ago so everything's sound.

    #science
     
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  14. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    I'll say again Sis, without wishing to offend you or anyone else, the issues are:-

    Is global temperature rising? You yourself say it is (by two degrees over a century) but airily dismiss this as being less significant as when a cloud passes over. Hmmm. If I raise the central heating by 2 degrees during the summer for a few days I know it makes more difference than turning the hair dryer on for ten minutes. I admit to my ignorance here, but even I can spot that is a fatuous analogy you came up with.

    Is this rising due to man's activities? Far, far more unclear. I thank you for your contribution re CO2 (though Tobes did post an equally vehement argument dismissing the CO2 sceptic position - did you read it?) but phrase 'since industrial activity' rings a bell in that lot too. Not clear at all, this one. As to the overall argument as to whether we may be entering a completely different era - well in billions of years time the sun will turn into a red giant and consume the earth anyway. I assume if we're due to enter a new period it won't happen overnight, but there's **** all we can do to stop that apart from manning the liferafts to Mars.

    Most importantly, can we do anything about the climate, whatever is causing it to rise, and should we?

    I don't know. But for all your graphs and charts, you don't seem to either. What I do object to, and hence my exasperated sarcasm, is the persistent ascribing of dark motivations to one side of the argument and not the other. I'm sure there are many, many people (scientists too) who are genuinely sceptical in the climate debate. My father was one of them. The issue becomes blurred beyond focus though when journalists and hacks and both side simply play out their own agendas.

    There are two sides to all this, Sis, but thinking you're somehow sticking it to the Man and 'authority types' by becoming a zealot of the global petro-chemical industries is more tragic than it is comic.
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Where is the falsified data for polar bear populations.
     
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    So easy to trigger reactions from reactionary clowns <whistle>
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    I've been posting and not really reading for the past few days, due to time constraints. Just stirring..
    Cant educate idiots in a few minutes here and there let alone respond to complete nonsense about climate change and religious beliefs.

    Donga you went from impartial and objective to mocking to conspiracy, in a week.
    <doh>
    Should have just been honest and started with "conspiracy theory"
    <laugh>
     
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    So a theory about a theoretical object... helpful. Now one way black holes are recycling.. this is hilarious, and belongs with 'white hole' theory and 'what goes in must come out' logic. How much money are these ****s wasting that could be spent on cancer research<yikes>

    Wake me up when someone finally confirms that black holes exist, until them I prefer to read entertaining science fiction.
     
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  18. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    I know: I've seen the graphs...:emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  19. Tobes

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    Educate? ****ing lol.

    You never read posts properly btw, so that statement is hardly news....
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Nobody wants a cure for cancer you mug, it's man made and not a mutation that causes a cancer to form. It makes too much money to find a 'cire'
     
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