I responded properly by showing it for whit it is. its easy type up a list of excuses... showing the real truth takes a bit of time. so is he DECENT (you just alluded to it) or ****... you keep calling him that. just say "i don't like him" and just move on.... thats the simplest thing.
benteke goals bournemouth 1-0 = 3 points southampton 1-1 = 1 point leicester 1-0 = 3 points sudnerland 1-0 = 3 points bordeaux goal was 1-1 and got us a point in europe which isn't very important but it got us thorugh in top spot in the end. chelsea, goal was not a winner, utd goal was not a winner, @astroturfnaut .. its actually 10 points when you add the points earned stat to your charts.
If you're fighting relegation and want someone to scrap you a point, Lukaku will do that for you. He's earned Everton 7 draws and 1 win. Benteke has won us 4 games and 1 draw.
I count going from a draw to win as 2 points e.g. we has 1 point against Leicester, Benteke's goal got us 2 more
The goal record isn't the biggest concern - it's the lack of everything else to his game. You're merely happy that he scores goals but you can't see the impact he has on those around him. City, Soton, and now Stoke. More examples of us playing MUCH better without him. It's not a coincidence. Please don't forget the point he cost us - sitters against Arsenal and Newcastle. Not to mention the other sitters which didn't cost us thankfully.
Yeah we played well against Stoke, where Coutinho, Lallana and Firmino offered a combined 2 shots on target from outside the box, the goal came from Coutinho's sub, and the assist came from Allen making a run into the box because Firmino and Lallana haven't been in there all season
Watch the performance again. It wasn't perfect because we're playing without a striker but surely you could see the movement and fluidity to our play. We have yet to see anything like that whenever Benteke starts.
So Benteke starting forces players around him to run and pass less? Is it is gravitational pull? Or are you making excuses for stroppy selfish players who have scored less than him because you like them more?
****ing lol. How can a goalscorer be responsible for having a keeper who dives out the way of shots and a defence that can't defend set pieces? Whether their goals end up being 'winners' is not down to the striker. All they can do is hit the net and hope the rest of the team does their jobs correctly. That's therefore a total nonsense of a figure. The only one that matters in terms of comparing strikers is how many times they've hit the net. This season Lukaku = 19, Benteke = 7. As for Benteke himself, he's being scapegoated at Liverpool imo. He's a confidence player and when his head does go down it affects his game. He had a massive drought at Villa last season and then Sherwood came in, put his arm around him and started playing to his strengths, and hey presto he scored the goals to keep them up. He's a good striker, but his head's in his boots at the minute.
I'm not blaming Benteke for Howard, that is Martinez's stupidity alone #prayforjoel But you can't also say let's have Lukaku keep scoring just as many goals, and we'll also tighten things up a lot at the back He's scoring so much because of the tactics that mean you concede so much, problem is he's not doing it well enough to make it a worthwhile sacrifice. When we did it with Suarez we got 2nd and challenged until the last game of the season. It's getting you 11th. You and Man Utd were better with Moyes #reality
Benteke hardly cost you points against Arsenal... Arsenal should of won the game but for an onside goal being ruled offside. Nothing about that game screamed out that Benteke had cost you the game, nonsense, Arsenal were the better team and your lot were lucky not to lose. Every striker is going to miss the odd chance, I remember RVP missing more than one chance that I felt my grandma would have buried in the season prior to him joining Utd when he was banging goals in for fun. You can't pick out individual missed chances to make a striker look ****, it happens to everyone.
Not true in the slightest that. He's scoring all sorts of goals, headers, one on ones from through balls, tap ins, shots from outside and inside the box......you name it. The fact that Martinez tactics are leaving us too open on the counter, are nothing to do with the efficiency of Lukaku in front of the sticks. So in short, you're chatting bubbles.
Better team my arse. We battered you in the first half, you returned the favour in the second. If the opportunities had been taken, Liverpool would have been out of sight by HT and what Arsenal did in the second would have been irrelevant. At best you can argue the draw was a fair result.
Nope, we scored a perfectly good goal that was disallowed, at best (and by the rules of the game) we should of won.
"Should" in what sense? You didn't put the ball in the back of the net once. If the rules had been followed correctly Arsenal would have won the game 1-0. Not sure where your 4 goals are coming from. They are suggesting video technology will be implemented in the cups next season as an experiment to see if it should be rolled out across the leagues. If said technology was in place already Liverpool would have lost the game. I'm not going on chances your lot failed to score, I.e. Not being good enough, I'm going by goals that were actually scored within the rules of the game As I said, it's a game we should of won and your lot should of lost. My point was actually that you shouldn't use individual misses as a barometer of a strikers ability as even the best strikers miss the odd sitter. Think we may have gone slightly off topic!
Are you kidding me? Do you remember that first-half? Ramsey's goal aside, we got absolutely mullered in the first 45. I remember Liverpool hitting the woodwork 2/3 times and Cech making a world-class stop from close range against Benteke. Our midfield and defence was shambolic in that first half. The second half was much better, but we definitely were not the better team. It was a fair result in the end.
