Match Day Thread vs Stoke (A)

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jaffaklopp said:
I would actually like to see us line up:

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Clyne------Lovren-----Sakho------Smith
---------------Lucas----Can
---Milner------Coutinho------Moreno
------------------Benteke

Smith deserves a start or two this week and with Moreno playing advanced, maybe Benteke will get some more crosses coming his way as we have no choice but to play him. Think we need Milner's experience, should he be fit enough.
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I think that would keep Smith in a withdrawn role and that would negate one of his strengths.
We haven't seen too much of him, but from what we have he seems to be able to get in good, early crosses which should suit Benny a bit more.
 
saintaKlaus said:
I think that would keep Smith in a withdrawn role and that would negate one of his strengths.
We haven't seen too much of him, but from what we have he seems to be able to get in good, early crosses which should suit Benny a bit more.
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So would you swap them about?

Really want Smith to continue playing...got a feeling about the lad!

Anyway Benteke to start and score 2...2-2 result.
 
I dunno lads, why not let him show if he can defend first. why stick an inexperienced kid in further up. his position in LB. if he can't over lap cos moreno is there its his own fault still
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
Watford denied space, city made shed loads of it for us by not tracking back at all.
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That is the difference. Ben and Firm do great when given space but are ineffective when teams close down.

Perhaps playing someone more creative like an Ings or a Studge (when fit) would create more space for Benteke and make him more effective.

I don't think his poor showing is entirely his fault

moreinjuredthanowen said:
benteke playing in some games doesn't mean he upsets the apple cart. The others have been total ****ing ****e
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I haven't said that he does... And I don't think we have anyone better fit at the moment Firm shares the same weakness as Benteke and the other three possible contrnders are injured. Even when fit Origi is inconsistent. Only Ings and Studge are better choices in almost every game... And theyve both been injured most of the season.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
I dunno lads, why not let him show if he can defend first. why stick an inexperienced kid in further up. his position in LB. if he can't over lap cos moreno is there its his own fault still
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I think he won't play tonight but in the fa cup. Moreno hasn't been the worst player despite taking naps. Competition for him will be handy though so hope Smith keeps developing
 
Milky Orthodox Christmas said:
That is the difference. Ben and Firm do great when given space but are ineffective when teams close down.

Perhaps playing someone more creative like an Ings or a Studge (when fit) would create more space for Benteke and make him more effective.

I don't think his poor showing is entirely his fault




I haven't said that he does... And I don't think we have anyone better fit at the moment Firm shares the same weakness as Benteke and the other three possible contrnders are injured. Even when fit Origi is inconsistent. Only Ings and Studge are better choices in almost every game... And theyve both been injured most of the season.
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ings is not all this... i think guys need to watch him back. a bust player, a nice worker but not a wolrd beater.
 
DirtyKlopp said:
I think he won't play tonight but in the fa cup. Moreno hasn't been the worst player despite taking naps. Competition for him will be handy though so hope Smith keeps developing
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I agree he really ought to play along with randall in FA cup. I expect this fully.
 
jaffaklopp said:
I would actually like to see us line up:

-------------------Mignolet
Clyne------Lovren-----Sakho------Smith
---------------Lucas----Can
---Milner------Coutinho------Moreno
------------------Benteke

Smith deserves a start or two this week and with Moreno playing advanced, maybe Benteke will get some more crosses coming his way as we have no choice but to play him. Think we need Milner's experience, should he be fit enough.
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Just line-up? Like were going to be shot? <laugh>
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
ings is not all this... i think guys need to watch him back. a bust player, a nice worker but not a wolrd beater.
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I'm not going to judge a player on how he did for other clubs (only how he does for us). Ings we don't have much experience with yet; However, in every game we've played he looked fantastic, even managing to look good when everyone else looked bad.

So far (it's early days yet) he has looked our best striker this season... When not injured.

Probably the only player on the team who hasn't managed to look awful this year in at least one game.
 
DirtyKlopp said:
So would you swap them about?

Really want Smith to continue playing...got a feeling about the lad!

Anyway Benteke to start and score 2...2-2 result.
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I really don't know- I haven't seen enough of him, but what I have seems promising.
I'm not ecstatic about Moreno's defending, tbh- though there's more to his overall game. It might be worth a go playing them both, as long as they work together and don't leave the left exposed to the counter.
Having said all that, I expect Klopp will go for experience and keep Smith on the bench, as we're up against a strong side.
 
Milky Orthodox Christmas said:
I'm not going to judge a player on how he did for other clubs (only how he does for us). Ings we don't have much experience with yet; However, in every game we've played he looked fantastic, even managing to look good when everyone else looked bad.

So far (it's early days yet) he has looked our best striker this season... When not injured.

Probably the only player on the team who hasn't managed to look awful this year in at least one game.
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Lallana can do that :bandit:
 
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moreinjuredthanowen said:
Yeah... or on other words take out benteke and all will be fine.

It's called Watford away.

Stoke will paste us today if the midfield cannot string two passes together.

We ball hog, don't look for quick ball and anyone would struggle in those conditions.

Simple as.

Put Firmino up there, go right ahead but don't he shocked if he's anonymous while the others do exactly the same things they've done since the last league cup game. Dunno why but they've just been total dross since.
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Firmino won't run in behind either, so I'm not sure what your point is.
 
Lucaaas said:
Firmino won't run in behind either, so I'm not sure what your point is.
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he did.... once.... v man city... once seems to indicate to some he can do it.

the point is if we played a front 3 of frimino at false 9 and the other two with him wide nominally is whats being asked for on here... or anything bar benteke...

any my point is fine play it but unless those 3 and the midfield with them play a hell of a lot metter it won't matter who's at no 9 or a false no 9.

don't be shocked if firmino get no joy is my point if the 5 players in midfield/attack don't work hard enough to get control of the game.
 
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