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So @astroturfnaut did you google "debunk solar sunspot tempera
astroturfnaut said:
They got the calculations wrong. If they had been using this as evidence for AGW you would call them a [HASHTAG]#fraud[/HASHTAG] but I guess somehow they are still right even though they couldn't add up properly and the [HASHTAG]#fraud[/HASHTAG] is to follow the rules of actual mathematics

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Skeptical science run by John Cook et al, the guy who frauded the 97% paper and runs climate denial school 101, you are posting stuff from there.
Who is the author of that paper and what paper is it
I know you googled "debunk sunpots vs temp or something like that. You have no knowledge, you are using google for everything you post, skeptical science <laugh>

You are using google to fabricate arguments


But I posted day before yesterday a recent paper confirming the sun spot and temp data. I will repost

You went to the most pro alarmist fraud site ever. They also say Aerosols cause the pause that Tobes and NASA claimed never happened <laugh>

If you use Skeptical science as a source I can use fox news, one is as valid and impartial as the other <laugh>

John Cook is a failed cartoonist and psychology student, explains a lot, that 97% was a psychology stunt
 
Tobes said:
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Whereas you're not using climate change denier sites are you?

Nooooooooo
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Yes NASA is a denier site, IPCC reports are denier sites, in fact didn't you complain along with astro that I used charts.. Most of my charts have a source link for the data too, and ye all slagged it off and told me I dont understand it.

maybe CRU or met data is denier? I posted met data and you ignored it just yesterday and today in fact. You gonna tell me what paper your irradiance thing was from or not?
[HASHTAG]#******[/HASHTAG]
 
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2014 and 2015 are the hottest 2 years on record and the sunspot cycle doesn't correlate with that being the primary cause.

It's a complete fallacy to suggest that sunspots are the driver of the temperature increase.
 
BringBackFootie. said:
Yes NASA is a denier site, IPCC reports are denier sites, in fact didn't you complain along with astro that I used charts.. Most of my charts have a source link for the data too, and ye all slagged it off and told me I dont understand it.

maybe CRU or met data is denier? I posted met data and you ignored it just yesterday and today in fact. You gonna tell me what paper your irradiance thing was from or not?
[HASHTAG]#******[/HASHTAG]
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I posted Met data this morning and you decried it as being media bullshit <laugh>

Flip flop.
 
BringBackFootie. said:
Yes NASA is a denier site, IPCC reports are denier sites, in fact didn't you complain along with astro that I used charts.. Most of my charts have a source link for the data too, and ye all slagged it off and told me I dont understand it.

maybe CRU or met data is denier? I posted met data and you ignored it just yesterday and today in fact. You gonna tell me what paper your irradiance thing was from or not?
[HASHTAG]#******[/HASHTAG]
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I thought you'd conveniently destroyed both of those sites as being credible sources of information?

They were both the architects of the [HASHTAG]#fraud[/HASHTAG] according to you.

So now their information is to be trusted then yes?

Sort your ****ing story out

Flip, flopping all over the place <laugh>
 
Tobes said:
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2014 and 2015 are the hottest 2 years on record and the sunspot cycle doesn't correlate with that being the primary cause.

It's a complete fallacy to suggest that sunspots are the driver of the temperature increase.
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Sun spots have gone right down and the earth has slightly cooled for all of the NASA data tempering, only a ****** who doesn't know **** would keep repeating "hottest years on record"

2014 was not, scientifically it was not, because the claim was not scientifically supportable.

What was the record 2015? How much? 0.04 degrees? That's far smaller than the margin of error as in 2014.

Temp CO2 not getting along are they no matter how much NASA make up temps, also, you are trying to cherry pick your arguments, and failing
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global warming is measured in the troposphere not at the surface, unless you actually disagree with CAGW theory that is?
 
terrifictraore said:
Using websites to copy and paste charts etc is fair enough but when you do it with text, arguments or ideas and then present them as your own just shows how desperate he is to rebuild his ego.
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He likes to think he's an expert and yet posts stories about snowfall to supposedly back his argument, when increased precipitation is a symptom of global warming.

Oh it's cold today therefore it proves the [HASHTAG]#fraud[/HASHTAG].<doh>

His it gets cold at night in Finland therefore a 2 degree global temperature increase is no biggy was my favourite like. <laugh>
 
I dont have time to debunking crap from three idiots. Astro I will post the confirmation of the solar irradiance issue from 2 solar physicists when I get back, in different papers written in the past 4 years when I get back to refute your "its never been redone" nonsense, of course you'll conveniently forget you ever said it
 
BringBackFootie. said:
Sun spots have gone right down and the earth has slightly cooled for all of the NASA data tempering, only a ****** who doesn't know **** would keep repeating "hottest years on record"

2014 was not, scientifically it was not, because the claim was not scientifically supportable.

What was the record 2015? How much? 0.04 degrees? That's far smaller than the margin of error as in 2014.

Temp CO2 not getting along are they no matter how much NASA make up temps, also, you are trying to cherry pick your arguments, and failing
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global warming is measured in the troposphere not at the surface, unless you actually disagree with CAGW theory that is?
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The now excepted source of data - NASA and NOAA make you wrong.

The year 2014 ranks as Earth’s warmest since 1880, according to two separate analyses by NASA and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) scientists.

The 10 warmest years in the instrumental record, with the exception of 1998, have now occurred since 2000. This trend continues a long-term warming of the planet, according to an analysis of surface temperature measurements by scientists at NASA’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS) in New York.

In an independent analysis of the raw data, also released Friday, NOAA scientists also found 2014 to be the warmest on record.
 
Tobes said:
The now excepted source of data - NASA and NOAA make you wrong.

The year 2014 ranks as Earth’s warmest since 1880, according to two separate analyses by NASA and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) scientists.

The 10 warmest years in the instrumental record, with the exception of 1998, have now occurred since 2000. This trend continues a long-term warming of the planet, according to an analysis of surface temperature measurements by scientists at NASA’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS) in New York.

In an independent analysis of the raw data, also released Friday, NOAA scientists also found 2014 to be the warmest on record.
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Well here is some science for your half copy paste, the record was a few 100ths of a degree, and the instruments are only accurate to 10ths of a degree, meaning anything smaller than a 10th of a degree must be considered noise not signal.

Science. NASA admitted this in their press statement, of which you only copied a small bit. They said 38% certain because 3 of 5 data sets did not show that record and those that did the margin was to small to be scientifically accurate.. go figure [HASHTAG]#cherrypicking[/HASHTAG]

As I said a little knowledge is a dangerous thing in the hands of ******s
 
BringBackFootie. said:
@donga kloppo What's with the Agenda 21 link? Wasn't accompanied by any point made
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Sorry, I was suggesting the hysteria on both sides - control and arbitrary measures on one side, and wails of lack of sovereignty from right-wing, gun-tooting states in the US. Just trying to highlight the lack of objectivity this subject emits when there are graphs and charts to 'prove' both sides of the argument.
 
Ugghhh mouth breathing morons, bar donga who is just conditioned to love the st
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but no substance, no showing how... just an image. You've resorted to pictures, read the sun or star mate, lots of pics in them.

But whatever you do, do not have a coherent argument about the science
 
Tobes said:
It's snowing heavy in Montreal....<laugh>

Here's another source for you to rubbish re: the sunspots / solar activity.

http://www.yaleclimateconnections.org/2015/10/earths-warming-how-scientists-know-its-not-the-sun/
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Another link you didn't read or understand and you want me to read it and understand it? Make your argument with points from the link, dont just post it. As usual say "it's all there to see" [HASHTAG]#3minuteexpert[/HASHTAG]
You couldn't have possibly read that link in the time between this and your last post. <ok>

Snow in Montreal, I never said that more hyperbole, Record snow in Montreal is what I said. In relation to cold being ignored and only warm making the hysterical hyperbolic media, you forgot all the other places, like California, where drought is global warming but record cold is not worth mentioning
 
I pity Tobes and Astro, two pathological liars of the same cloth, their arguments on here are exactly the same as the gay wum fest they bring to every other thread they get into it on.

Terrific needs to go back to school ffs
 
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