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Bruce out - Revote

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Amin Yapusi, Dec 5, 2015.

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Should steve Bruce be ****ed off?

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  1. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    Precisely the point I've been making - if Bruce didn't work for us and was out of work we'd all now be clamouring for him to be appointed. Just after we beat you lot your messageboard was full of people slating your boss and ours was full of praise for Bruce. The modern football fan is indeed a fickle twat.
     
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  2. SydneyTiger14

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    Probably because he'd be a breath of fresh air. Bit of a stupid comment.

    It's like saying to Chelsea fans "If Mourinho didn't work for you you'd be clamouring for him to be coming in if he was unemployed."

    Well sure, but if my Auntie had nuts she'd be my Uncle. Bruce does work for us, and our poor form is his doing, so it's reasonable to want him gone.
     
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  3. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    The guy who failed in this division at both Wigan and TWS you mean? And how often hash even promoted out of this division vs Bruce?
     
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  4. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    Chelsea fans campaigned vociferally to keep Jose in the job. But other than that, good point...
     
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  5. SydneyTiger14

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    He was fine at TWS, they just regularly go through managers. He was also fine at Wigan. Hell their Chairman said as much despite sacking him. Coyle put that club in a mess.

    So we look at Bruce's record vs any potential manager? That's a rubbish way of judging any potential applicants.
     
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  6. SydneyTiger14

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    But that's no different to numerous City fans wanting Bruce to stay, is it? All managers will have their ardent supporters.

    Bruce also didn't win us a title last season.
     
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  7. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    Eh? Well if he was fine why did he sack him? Cos he thought someone else would do better. Massive vote of confidence is that...

    And I'd suggest that's exactly how we should judge any potential candidates.
     
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  8. bum_chinned_crab

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    It was about 90% Chelsea fans wanting him to stay. It's about 50/50 with Bruce.
     
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  9. SydneyTiger14

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    He took them to the FA Cup Semi Finals and the Play Off Semi Finals, and then had a poor start to the new season. The Chairman described it as an incredibly harsh decision. He was replaced by Malky ****ing Mackay who proceded to get them relegated.

    So because Bruce managed to get Birmingham promoted twice a decade ago, that has relevance to this season how?

    Eddie Howe had never had a team promoted to the PL before last season, nor had Alex Neil..
     
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  10. SydneyTiger14

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    Again, Bruce hadn't won us a title six months prior.
     
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  11. bum_chinned_crab

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    You seem to be forgetting a rather significant other Bruce promotion...
     
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  12. SydneyTiger14

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    I'm not. My point is that comparing every potential managerial candidate to Bruce merely because he has three promotions on his CV - two of which, as I said, were a decade ago - is meaningless, when every year managers get sides promoted despite not having any previous promotion experience. They do this because they actually play a good brand of football. So finding a manager who does that should be the top priority, not what they've managed in the history books.
     
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  13. bum_chinned_crab

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    He'd got us promoted, reached our first FA Cup final and got us into Europe. I'd argue they're bigger achievements for us than Chelsea winning a title.
     
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  14. SydneyTiger14

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    Ah yes, that great run of giant-killing matches in the 2013 FA Cup. The likes of Southend, Brighton, Sheffield United, eh? What an achievement.

    Also, none of which happened in the last 12 months. Chelsea fans were sticking to Mou because what he'd done last season. Last season Bruce tanked in Europe to keep us in the PL, then assembled our most expensive squad, only to have us plummet like a stone.
     
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    Selective memory again or was Sunderland missed by accident?
     
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  16. SydneyTiger14

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    If you think Sunderland are a giant who were slain in a well managed masterpiece by Bruce I have nothing more to say to you. That FA Cup run was probably the luckiest run any team has ever had.
     
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    Surely it's the big games that Bruce HAS recently shown he can get the team motivated for - Middlesbrough and Burnley. It's the matches against supposed lesser teams where we have struggled.
     
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    Apart from the Derby and Brighton games.
     
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  19. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    If Bruce is so good why does he keep finding himself in this division trying to get another promotion on his CV?

    May as well get rid now. Whether we get promoted or not he has to go in the summer so what's the point in keeping him for the time being?
     
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  20. StCloudTiger

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    Indeed I believe SB has since 2001 only been in the championship for 3 seasons and has won promotion every time. So obviously with us only 3rd and 22 games to go the best thing for the club would be to sack him now before he does it again. You could not make it up.
     
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