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Talking to you about anything is like trying to converse with a block of wood lad.

You close your mind to anything that doesn't reach the conclusion you've decided is the correct one.

You do it on every subject that's been discussed. When faced with undeniable facts that smash your conspiraloon theories to bits, you try and make out that your knowledge is somehow infinitely larger on the subject at hand, and therefore everyone else who contradicts your view is either uneducated or an idiot.

http://www.urban75.org/info/conspiraloons.html

 

do you not have a ball of wool to play with no?

Stop bothering, go actually confirm or refute your "beliefs" I have no interest in beliefs, and they are beliefs where you are concerned because you haven't a clue

 

Data, actual Data from NASA, and lots of other sources, records, scientific papers and history. All conspiracy loons to you, because that is your flat earth approach, **** data, go with beliefs yeah.

ROFLLMAOLOL or something like that

 

http://en.ilmatieteenlaitos.fi/press-release/40085902

It appears that your country of residence is also in on the global scam. In fact they're claiming the temperature rise is twice the global average

Go educate them lad, let them all know what's going on, make it your goal in life

 

unlike other unprovable things like 9\11 which is a massive grey area, this topic has nothing to do with that, this one is grounded in science and history lad. But conspiracy is your getout clause for not understanding wtf is being discussed.

The glaciers debacle proved without doubt 3 minute expert tactics do not work.

 

It appears that you went and did your 3 minute thing, looked for a finnish organisation, as if it is somehow representative of the Finnish population, that is how ******ed you are

Belief in this scam is about 60\40 here, 60% believing and 40% not. ALmost 90% dont give a ****

 

Actually Tobes you just made a point, for me, you think those screaming loudest are representative of the many, they are not, they are just shouting louder than anyone else, the environmentalists were always a minority, most people dont really care.

That is a fact

 

The article I posted was published by the Finnish Meterological Institute, what the populous believe or otherwise is irrelevant to the facts...

I love the 'facts' with which you've decried that piece with btw. So apparently 60% of Finns believe in global warming but 90% don't give a ****?

I assume you can provide a source for those 'facts'?

 

Most people don't care is a 'fact'? Another beauty. Back it up love otherwise it's completely dismissed as merely the rantings of a crank.

 

SO, let me get this straight, I say Finland has no wind of note and no sun for much of the autumn and winter, and that equates to Tobes posting a link about some finnish organisation that probably has less than 100 people working fior it, Finland is not big on green tech (they still burn epic amounts of energy waste, plastics and such)

I can only imagine trying to clear thousands of solar panels in winter here every day of snow and ice

#retard

 

Rivers not dredged?

Which one, the river idle near to where my Mrs folks lives has been.

 

2 idiots with no clue posting links they dont read (or understand) PJ you are even more stupid than Tobes, hardly helping him

Tobes already proved several times he doesn't read his own links, 3 minute expert

 

Still waiting on Tobes to clarify his Glacier claim. Instead of general crap he reads within 3 minutes before he gets bored

 

Finland produces roughly 40% of it energy from 'renewables'

 

I see the Arctic has an Ice extent at the highest in 12 years atm. #globalwarming.
If the planet is warming the artic is where it will be seen, especially greenland.

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Tobes has changed to man made climate change, only took him a year like. A year of being mullered and finally he moved the goalposts to man made climate change
#3minuteexpert

 

Seeing as @Tobes believes in man made climate change, maybe he can explain to me the process of how one distinguishes normal climate change from man made climate change.

If we have 100mm of rain for example, how much is climate and how much is man made climate?
How do we know if a Tornado is made by weather or man made weather?

How do we know how much of a warm december is man made and natural climate variability?

How much of El Nino was us and how much natural?

With only really 30 or 40 years of weather records of any real note (for less than half the panet), how can we say what is nomal?


#pseudoscience .

Fact: If a scientific claim cannot be put to a falsification test, it is not scientific. Claiming what will happen in 100 years is unfalsifiable for 100 years.

I can tell you the moon by my calculations will explode in 100 years and you cannot prove me wrong. You can make a counter claim and I can call you a "denier" but still, we have to wait 100 years for empirical proof, as in the moon is still there.

All this from the people that cant even determine weather beyond 4 days about 88% accuracy.
The same people could not model the previous year's climate with models, when knowing what happened they still could not get those models to repeat what actually happened, and yet, 100 years from now>

So people believe them even though all of the predictions they have made for the last 30 years turned out to be nonsense, now they predict both outcomes so as to claim "we predicted it" I proved this with claims of more rain less rain, more heat less heat, more floods less floods, more drought less drought, all for the same regions. For example the IPCC have used two papers for western Australia having more drought and less drought, the first (more drought) was when Australia was having drought in the northwest, then the floods came, and the IPCC said Western Australia will see more floods. #pseudoscience

#fraud

 

@Tobes How much of this water currently in Ireland is man made and how much normal climatic event?

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how much of the great floods in the 1700s in the UK was man made?

 

Seeing as this "religion" is being discussed, how much of Noah's woes and his need for an Ark was down to CO2?

 

Aberdeen Journal 1774
http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/pdfs/headnotesconsolidatedlist.pdf
Severe floods in december.


#SUVs

 

What flooded Florence in 1966?

LAST DECEMBER'S FLOOD.
LAST DECEMBER'S FLOOD. DISBURSING THE RELIEF FUND. During tha present week payments have been made at the Hull Guildhall out the fund which the Lord Mayor (Councillor F. raised for the sufferers in the Wincolrnlee district the flood last December. The
24 June 1922 - Hull Daily Mail - Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire, England



DECEMBER STORMS AND FLOODS.
DECEMBER STORMS AND FLOODS. December is the stormiest month of the year, and the present month has been unusually changeable. The extended observations now made enable us to account in some degree for the gloom and rain of the season. It was reported
30 December 1876 - Reading Mercury - Reading, Berkshire, England


DAILY HAIL. Thursday, December 27. Floods Knee Deep in the West View Area A CHRISTMAS TASTE OF ALL THE ELEMENTS
DAILY HAIL. Thursday, December 27. Floods Knee Deep in the West View Area A CHRISTMAS TASTE OF ALL THE ELEMENTS OLOODS, fires, frost, a gale, and a sunshine record, made Christmas in the Hartlepools an out-of-theordinary festival. Christmas Eve rain whose
27 December 1951 - Hartlepool Northern Daily Mail - Hartlepool, Durham, Engla

I could go on and on with 100s, just cos you aren't aware of them doesn't mean they did not happen. Some of you are complete idiots when referring to weather to "confirm" CAGW

@terrifictraore #cycles