To each his own mate, I am giving my opinion of it. I have higher direction\acting\writing expectations apparently
Ok my rankings 1. New hope. Clearly the inventor of the series and the one that created the audience and story. 2. Empire. Very close. The shock at the end at the time much have been mind blowing. 3. Return of the jedi. Felt like reinventing the wheel. Some actors looked past it. Just a little twee. Up here just cos awakens has too many holes. 4. Force awakens... very close to 3 but let down by the things I raised previously. A few more scenes could have raised it. It also reinvents wheel. Most of all feels like stage dressing for next movie. Good action flick and a pleasure to watch through 5. Revenge of sith.. only slightly better than others as the whole turning to the dark side should have been much much better done. Ffs palatine hold have had agents sent to kill mommy and shown to have twisted the guy far more. The prior movie also seriously lacked this development. Tries to recreate the I am you father moment with obi wan cutting his legs off and him fake Cgi burning but it was badly done.. poor acted and just a thank **** it's over stuff. 6. Clone wars. Pretty poor.. tried to be... well cerebral but utterly failed with the mystery. Also a certain actress ripping her outfit to become a belly top was a sad effort.... then the whole I was a queen and you were like much younger than me ****e 7. Phantom menace. A 4 year old would groan.
As I said revenge needed more good work earlier in clone wars on the turning and the whole point is the fall of Jedi and turning of anikin I felt the acting and Cgi were so poor it was flat but the prior two set it up to flop. Force awakens was a dichotomy of kids and oaps... a sorry for ruining yours so here's one last hurrah while supergirl and silly sidekick finn ran about. It could have been better with some tension and drama added but it was an action flick from an action director. It fed the people what they wanted. What I wanted too.
I actually really liked ROTS. I thought the acting was fine (even Natalie Portman improved considerably), and the effects were much better as well. The less said about those in the PM and CW, the better...
Very true. The lack of tension was as a result of a lack of "adventure" and drama, which the two best films IV and V both had and what I was expecting. There was no emphasis on their escape from Jakku and their run to the rebel planet. Compare that to IV and V who invested time and effort to build that sense of adventure. Even the scene when Hans recaptures the Millenium Falcon, where those pirates turn up and those CGI creatures get let loose, was as dry as fck compared to the dilemma of a simple garbage compactor in IV.
This is the aftermath. The fallout as everyone eventually sees it. Don't forget Luvgonzo will be on in the New Year to add another 10 pages
I felt the Han solo in another ship with big creatures was trying to fit in a bit of return of the jedi. I felt a tension filled night scene of the two running from the ren character using different perspectives could have been a classic. The battle scene where rey is captured was poor too.
I'd compare the battles to the battle of hot and as such.... nah Abrahams didn't create the best ever land battle in star wars history. But then... well....
The deal with Star Wars was this. (Minor Spoilers) I enjoyed it a lot. I had some issues with it, like how Rey became so awesomely powerful at the end, despite being a lowly scavenger at the start of the film. I guess she tapped in to some latent force abilities, like Luke did in ANH by hitting a bullseye torpedo in a 2 metre wide hole without a targetting computer, and I know she could handle herself in hand to hand, like when she beat those two guys who try to steal BB8 on Jakku, but still, going against a trained Sith like Ren, even a relatively young one....I did raise an eyebrow. But what the heck, the film was immensely enjoyable. Also expected Mark Hamill to have a bigger role, considering he got second billing......though I expect he will be in Episode 8 a great deal more, probably training Rey. Practical effects, decent acting performances by the returning veterans and the newbies alike, a story that made sense, all infinitely better than those ****ing Prequel movies.....awful ****ing ****. Lucas deserves a hug for creating Star Wars, then a ****ing slap for making those Turd Taco's he calls the Prequels.
Just seen it. Was kinda indifferent to it. Didn't hate it like Phantom Menace but didn't think it was fantastic either. I did get more into it as it went on but it never absorbed me. Plot Spoiler: The whole Rey becoming super Jedi seconds after being interrogated by Kylie Ren seemed a major plot hole to me. I don't expect it to be realistic but I expect it to be consistent. Overall 6/10. Didn't love it. Didn't hate it.
Same on the vastvgapingbhole that is rey. As bod said... at least like had obi wan along for some mysterious amount of time on the falcon and then spoke to him. Rey? The only possible saving story is like left her there as a trained youngling jedi after the other bollocking went rogue but the relative ages just don't work between Rey and ren. Just closed her eyes.... knew the old mind trick, the come here light saber one and could beat the dark ren..... Still she is fit.
I think more likely its just JJ Abrams and his bolloxing about. Nothing has to make sense. Plot is unimportant. Just do whatever to fill in between action sequences because audiences are too dumb to notice it doesn't make sense. "Audiences are stupid and won't notice" - JJ Abrams motto.
Well as to whether its a gaping plot hole, not sure I would go that far. At least not until we find out more about Rey, though it certainly was strange. I don't think there was anything too dumb in there at all, that was about the dumbest thing I can recall. Certainly more coherent than any of the prequel films, in which nothing anybody does makes a lick of sense from the first second. The Phantom Menace has the most laughably incoherent plot I have ever seen in a movie. Just watch the Plinkett reviews on the Prequels, they will show you the path. This one, I gave 8/10 because I had some minor issues with it (chiefly the big(ish) one at the end), but at least the plot made sense, even if it did copy ANH. And I could understand why each character did what they did as they were doing it, and wasn't just left staring at the screen thinking "Huh? What? Why?....erm......"
Phantoms sole objective was to introduce a young obi wan to anikin. That was it..... Well.... that and introduce the emperor character. It was in short disastrous and convoluted, Childish in the extreme and worse poor executed. Just like the 4th Indiana Jones was. The trade federation..... pointless.... druid army... pathetic. .. gungans dear God! !! The thing is it spawn my second favorite star wars game. Galactic Battlegrounds which had all then eras in it and was a builder and attack and defense game. Phantom has terrible acting... the typical Lucas stick a kid in thing like temple of doom... in this movie anikin should have been very peripheral and he should not have built the droid. I personally would like to have seen him being angry already and just doing stuff uncontrolled via "the force" then let the bad guy who at the time everyone loved be more central. Neeson was also wooden in this.
Of course he was wooden and the acting was terrible. Like I said, in the Prequels, when we see them standing in the Galactic Senate or in a desert, talking to an alien, they are actually standing in an airplane Hangar in Bedfordshire, with green wallpaper on the walls, talking to a tennis ball on a stick being held by an intern on his knees out of shot. Of course it wont evoke the same level of performance In this one, like the Originals, they used actual locations to shoot from, and practical effects for all but the most impossible effects.
Yes... Though even when together they were poor. I feel many have rejected Cgi as a mainstay now and have returned to going and engineering some stunts and scenarios for the reality. Cgi is a background thing imo that should blend on and not look fake. Abrahams tried very hard in patches to make ships and fighters look real are gard worn. What he did do here was amp up the light saber and I for one appreciated the harsher noise and effect compared to even the originals but especially compared to the prequels.
Indeed. It was so much more immersive. People blamed the actors, but I have seen Liam Neeson, Natalie Portman and Ewan McGregor knock performances out of the park in most of their other movies. Portman especially in Closer, Leon - The Professional, Garden State and V for Vendetta. She is a great actress. Even the douche nozzle who played Anakin in eps 2 and 3. Saw him in a film not so long ago and he was pretty good.
