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Match Day Thread Hull City v Burnley

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Dec 24, 2015.

  1. GLP

    GLP Well-Known Member

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    By mentioning 'Charles Hughes' you ARE talking about long ball football, that is what he is synonymous with.

    Klopp has a different style of play which is completely different to the style you implied was the same, based around gegenpressing, then swift countering. No long balls bypassing the midfield. Usually players running with the ball at pace at the heart of the opposition defence. Guardiola also uses Gegenpressing with Bayern.

    Google Charles Hughes style and all it brings up is pages and pages of long ball football ****. That may help.
     
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    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    He's synonymous with long ball football because people misinterpreted what he advocated. He never supported long ball football, he said direct football, switching defence to POMO was statistically the most likely to produce goals. Which is EXACTLY what Klopp advocates and EXACTLY the point I'm making.
     
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  3. GLP

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    You are on this occasion completely wrong. Use google and go away and check. I expected more than EXACTLY capitalised a few times. Very poor, even by your standard.

    His philosophy was getting the ball up front as quickly as possible (long ball) in all likelihood in 3-5 passes. He is credited with the demise of English football. <laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/profile-the-professor-breaks-cover-charles-hughes-1507161.html
     
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  4. Mr Hatem

    Mr Hatem Well-Known Member

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    EXACTLY
     
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    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    Oh it's in a newspaper and in Google articles that you found? Well it must be true then... Did I not say he was misinterpreted? Have you read his thesis?
     
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  6. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    I might be wrong but didnt Glenn Hoddle refuse to do the FA coaching badge as he refused to do the long ball bollocks Hughes advocated?
     
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    I just want to make something clear here, I'm not lauding or pro Hughes, I think he took English football backwards, what I'm saying is Klopp is being lauded for saying 30 years later exactly the same thing Hughes got slated for.
     
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  8. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Klopps just got better marketing, I think is what you're saying??
     
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  9. Mr Hatem

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    We lose people on here argue. We win people on here argue.
    plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
     
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  10. GLP

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    The long ball style advocated by Hughes is **** all like the gegenpressing employed by Klopp. **** knows what you are on about really.

    You will still deny Hughes was the technician of long ball football despite every ****ing source on the planet telling you he is.
     
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  11. look_back_in_amber

    look_back_in_amber Well-Known Member

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    That's why we'll win The Forum League, we're consistent.
     
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    http://tomkinstimes.com/2013/07/the-fa-coaching-and-youth-football-part-one/

    Another Charles Hughes 'Fan'.

    'Ask anyone to describe England and more often than not they respond with one of two phrases, ‘long ball’ or ‘route one’. Everyone knows the damage Charles Hughes was allowed to inflict on the English game during the 1970s and 80′s, which is hugely ironic considering it was a golden age for English football on the continent. Liverpool played their sophisticated brand of pass and move and Brian Clough’s Forest played with the ball on the ground, hence his “If God wanted us to play football in the clouds, he’d have put grass up there” quote. English football however, has never managed to shake off this brand of football, even at the highest level. Stuart Pearce’s England U21s were testament to this, despite the FA replacing Hughes’s official coaching manual in the mid-nineties.'
     
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  13. bum_chinned_crab

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    Except what he actually said, you mean?
     
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    I don't know what you mean by 'another". Who else is a fan?
     
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    Klopp?
     
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  16. GLP

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    You'll note the inverted commas around 'Fan', irony.
     
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    Can we have a new match day thread?
     
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  18. GLP

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    Why would Klopp be a fan? The styles of football endorsed by both men couldn't be more different. Something BCC doesn't understand. Long ball versus Gegenpressing.
     
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    It was Beckham like, he tried it twice as well
     
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  20. GLP

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    No.
     
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